Re: Private Property

On 8/9/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
> On 8/9/26 3:21 PM, Dude wrote:
>> On 8/9/2026 10:34 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>> On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in 
>>>> many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property. 
>>>> It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing 
>>>> the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed 
>>>> by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are 
>>>> life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
>>>>
>>>> Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in 
>>>> his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 – "lives, liberties, and 
>>>> estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened 
>>>> it.  They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and 
>>>> that the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of 
>>>> happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
>>>>
>>>> Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, 
>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that 
>>>> "the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and 
>>>> possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining 
>>>> happiness and safety."  The founding fathers were not waxing and 
>>>> waning philosophically – well, they were not /only/ doing that – 
>>>> they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new 
>>>> world.
>>>>
>>>> The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was 
>>>> one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership 
>>>> discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was 
>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.  Communal 
>>>> ownership of property had failed in practice because it was first a 
>>>> failed theory.
>>>>
>>>> Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to 
>>>> earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor. 
>>>> It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align 
>>>> with human nature.
>>>>
>>>> David L. Bahnsen
>>>>
>>>
>>> i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and 
>>> flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a 
>>> nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of 
>>> movement
>>>
>> You are not responsible for anyone jerking themselves off, or not.
>>
>> You are responsible only for your own jerking off - hopefully at home 
>> on your own time, maybe in the bathroom. Hopefully nobody is forcing 
>> you to stoop to self abuse, but that happens in marriage, especially 
>> just after giving birth. YMMV.
>>  >
>>> this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is 
>>> keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning 
>>> stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
>>>
>> You have my sympathies. It's tough getting cut off! Remember, you have 
>> a human right to pleasure yourself!
>>  >
>>>   > what disgustingly creepy inhumane fuck you are
>>>
>> It's nothing to be ashamed of, Nick.
>>  >
>>>   > #god
>>>
>> Hope this helps.
> 
> nice how you just ignored how capitalism went and chained 7/8 people of 
> the entire planet to their respective nation states in service of the 
> only principle they actually care about: private property
>
You are incorrect. 99.9% of all people on earth live in nation states.

You snipped this out:

The United Nations explicitly states that humans have rights from birth 
in Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which 
proclaims that "all human beings are born free and equal in dignity and 
rights".
 >

> fuck you you dumb boomer cunt
>
You snipped something out and cross-posted. Let me repeat:

We studied this in school: The French Revolution

The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in 1789.. 
Established private property as a basic human right. How?

By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections for 
individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
 >

>   > get rebirthed into a 3rd world shithole
>   >
>   > #god
>