Re: Private Property

On 8/10/26 2:36 PM, Dude wrote:
> On 8/10/2026 11:37 AM, dart200 wrote:
>> On 8/10/26 10:37 AM, Dude wrote:
>>> On 8/9/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>> On 8/9/26 3:21 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>> On 8/9/2026 10:34 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced 
>>>>>>> in many ways to an economic ideology centered around private 
>>>>>>> property. It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, 
>>>>>>> in writing the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men 
>>>>>>> were "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, 
>>>>>>> among them are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about 
>>>>>>> in his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 – "lives, liberties, 
>>>>>>> and estates, which I call by the general name, property," and 
>>>>>>> broadened it.  They presupposed that property was necessary for 
>>>>>>> liberty and that the greater aspiration behind private property 
>>>>>>> was "pursuit of happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in 
>>>>>>> my tradition).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, 
>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights 
>>>>>>> that "the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of 
>>>>>>> acquiring and possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing 
>>>>>>> and obtaining happiness and safety."  The founding fathers were 
>>>>>>> not waxing and waning philosophically – well, they were not / 
>>>>>>> only/ doing that – they were expressing the lived experience of 
>>>>>>> the settlers in the new world.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was 
>>>>>>> one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal 
>>>>>>> ownership discouraging productive work, and one where resentment 
>>>>>>> was inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.  
>>>>>>> Communal ownership of property had failed in practice because it 
>>>>>>> was first a failed theory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability 
>>>>>>> to earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own 
>>>>>>> labor. It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance 
>>>>>>> that align with human nature.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David L. Bahnsen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom 
>>>>>> and flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved 
>>>>>> to a nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic 
>>>>>> freedom of movement
>>>>>>
>>>>> You are not responsible for anyone jerking themselves off, or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are responsible only for your own jerking off - hopefully at 
>>>>> home on your own time, maybe in the bathroom. Hopefully nobody is 
>>>>> forcing you to stoop to self abuse, but that happens in marriage, 
>>>>> especially just after giving birth. YMMV.
>>>>>  >
>>>>>> this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do 
>>>>>> is keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently 
>>>>>> owning stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
>>>>>>
>>>>> You have my sympathies. It's tough getting cut off! Remember, you 
>>>>> have a human right to pleasure yourself!
>>>>>  >
>>>>>>   > what disgustingly creepy inhumane fuck you are
>>>>>>
>>>>> It's nothing to be ashamed of, Nick.
>>>>>  >
>>>>>>   > #god
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> nice how you just ignored how capitalism went and chained 7/8 people 
>>>> of the entire planet to their respective nation states in service of 
>>>> the only principle they actually care about: private property
>>>>
>>> You are incorrect. 99.9% of all people on earth live in nation states.
>>
>> you are retarded
>>
>>>
>>> You snipped this out:
>>>
>>> The United Nations explicitly states that humans have rights from 
>>> birth in Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, 
>>> which proclaims that "all human beings are born free and equal in 
>>> dignity and rights".
>>
>> well we've clearly failed to achieve that since most humans are 
>> chained to their nation states and lack equal freedom of movement
>>
> When the United Nations General Assembly adopted the Universal 
> Declaration of Human Rights, out of the 58 member states at the time, 48 
> voted in favor, none voted against, 8 abstained, and 2 were absent.
> 
>  >
> 
>>>
>>>> fuck you you dumb boomer cunt
>>>>
>>> You snipped something out and cross-posted. Let me repeat:
>>>
>>> We studied this in school: The French Revolution
>>>
>>> The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in 1789.. 
>>> Established private property as a basic human right. How?
>>>
>>> By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections 
>>> for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
>>
>> see what i mean? ur still defending property instead of addressing the 
>> fact 7/8 on this planet are not free enough to simply walk around freely
>>
> 
> The 8 Abstaining Countries:
> 
> Saudi Arabia (objected to certain articles, such as freedom of religion 
> and the right to change one's religion, viewing them as contrary to 
> Islamic law)South Africa (abstained due to its apartheid system, which 
> conflicted with the declaration's principles on racial equality)
> Soviet Union
> Belarus
> Ukrainian
> Czechoslovakia
> Poland

is this supposed to somehow defend the rest of world which hasn't 
managed basic freedom or movement??? idgaf what anyone signed dud,

  > actions speak louder than signatures
  >
  > #god

> 
>>>
>>>>   > get rebirthed into a 3rd world shithole
>>>>   >
>>>>   > #god
>>>>
>>>
>>
> 


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