Re: Private Property

On 8/10/26 5:25 PM, Dude wrote:
> On 8/10/2026 2:41 PM, dart200 wrote:
>> On 8/10/26 2:36 PM, Dude wrote:
>>> On 8/10/2026 11:37 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>> On 8/10/26 10:37 AM, Dude wrote:
>>>>> On 8/9/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/9/26 3:21 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/9/2026 10:34 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be 
>>>>>>>>> reduced in many ways to an economic ideology centered around 
>>>>>>>>> private property. It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our 
>>>>>>>>> founders, in writing the Declaration of Independence, declared 
>>>>>>>>> that all men were "endowed by their Creator with certain 
>>>>>>>>> unalienable rights, among them are life, liberty, and the 
>>>>>>>>> pursuit of happiness."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote 
>>>>>>>>> about in his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 – "lives, 
>>>>>>>>> liberties, and estates, which I call by the general name, 
>>>>>>>>> property," and broadened it.  They presupposed that property 
>>>>>>>>> was necessary for liberty and that the greater aspiration 
>>>>>>>>> behind private property was "pursuit of happiness" (what we 
>>>>>>>>> call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, 
>>>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights 
>>>>>>>>> that "the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of 
>>>>>>>>> acquiring and possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing 
>>>>>>>>> and obtaining happiness and safety."  The founding fathers were 
>>>>>>>>> not waxing and waning philosophically – well, they were not / 
>>>>>>>>> only/ doing that – they were expressing the lived experience of 
>>>>>>>>> the settlers in the new world.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation 
>>>>>>>>> was one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal 
>>>>>>>>> ownership discouraging productive work, and one where 
>>>>>>>>> resentment was inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort 
>>>>>>>>> was not. Communal ownership of property had failed in practice 
>>>>>>>>> because it was first a failed theory.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability 
>>>>>>>>> to earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our 
>>>>>>>>> own labor. It produces responsibility, stewardship, and 
>>>>>>>>> abundance that align with human nature.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David L. Bahnsen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom 
>>>>>>>> and flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are 
>>>>>>>> enslaved to a nation-state system that coercively interferes 
>>>>>>>> with basic freedom of movement
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are not responsible for anyone jerking themselves off, or not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are responsible only for your own jerking off - hopefully at 
>>>>>>> home on your own time, maybe in the bathroom. Hopefully nobody is 
>>>>>>> forcing you to stoop to self abuse, but that happens in marriage, 
>>>>>>> especially just after giving birth. YMMV.
>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>> this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do 
>>>>>>>> is keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently 
>>>>>>>> owning stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have my sympathies. It's tough getting cut off! Remember, you 
>>>>>>> have a human right to pleasure yourself!
>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>   > what disgustingly creepy inhumane fuck you are
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's nothing to be ashamed of, Nick.
>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>   > #god
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nice how you just ignored how capitalism went and chained 7/8 
>>>>>> people of the entire planet to their respective nation states in 
>>>>>> service of the only principle they actually care about: private 
>>>>>> property
>>>>>>
>>>>> You are incorrect. 99.9% of all people on earth live in nation states.
>>>>
>>>> you are retarded
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You snipped this out:
>>>>>
>>>>> The United Nations explicitly states that humans have rights from 
>>>>> birth in Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, 
>>>>> which proclaims that "all human beings are born free and equal in 
>>>>> dignity and rights".
>>>>
>>>> well we've clearly failed to achieve that since most humans are 
>>>> chained to their nation states and lack equal freedom of movement
>>>>
>>> When the United Nations General Assembly adopted the Universal 
>>> Declaration of Human Rights, out of the 58 member states at the time, 
>>> 48 voted in favor, none voted against, 8 abstained, and 2 were absent.
>>>
>>>  >
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> fuck you you dumb boomer cunt
>>>>>>
>>>>> You snipped something out and cross-posted. Let me repeat:
>>>>>
>>>>> We studied this in school: The French Revolution
>>>>>
>>>>> The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in 
>>>>> 1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How?
>>>>>
>>>>> By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections 
>>>>> for individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
>>>>
>>>> see what i mean? ur still defending property instead of addressing 
>>>> the fact 7/8 on this planet are not free enough to simply walk 
>>>> around freely
>>>>
>>>
>>> The 8 Abstaining Countries:
>>>
>>> Saudi Arabia (objected to certain articles, such as freedom of 
>>> religion and the right to change one's religion, viewing them as 
>>> contrary to Islamic law)South Africa (abstained due to its apartheid 
>>> system, which conflicted with the declaration's principles on racial 
>>> equality)
>>> Soviet Union
>>> Belarus
>>> Ukrainian
>>> Czechoslovakia
>>> Poland
>>
>> is this supposed to somehow defend the rest of world which hasn't 
>> managed basic freedom or movement??? idgaf what anyone signed dud,
>>
> Like I said:
> 

ur an absolute fucking unrepentant sinner unworthy of the air you breath 
dud. find a grave and sit in it

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