Re: Private Property

On 8/10/2026 9:56 PM, dart200 wrote:
> On 8/10/26 5:25 PM, Dude wrote:
>> On 8/10/2026 2:41 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>> On 8/10/26 2:36 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>> On 8/10/2026 11:37 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>> On 8/10/26 10:37 AM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/9/2026 3:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/9/26 3:21 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/9/2026 10:34 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be 
>>>>>>>>>> reduced in many ways to an economic ideology centered around 
>>>>>>>>>> private property. It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our 
>>>>>>>>>> founders, in writing the Declaration of Independence, declared 
>>>>>>>>>> that all men were "endowed by their Creator with certain 
>>>>>>>>>> unalienable rights, among them are life, liberty, and the 
>>>>>>>>>> pursuit of happiness."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote 
>>>>>>>>>> about in his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 – "lives, 
>>>>>>>>>> liberties, and estates, which I call by the general name, 
>>>>>>>>>> property," and broadened it.  They presupposed that property 
>>>>>>>>>> was necessary for liberty and that the greater aspiration 
>>>>>>>>>> behind private property was "pursuit of happiness" (what we 
>>>>>>>>>> call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, 
>>>>>>>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of 
>>>>>>>>>> Rights that "the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means 
>>>>>>>>>> of acquiring and possessing property" were predicates to 
>>>>>>>>>> "pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety."  The founding 
>>>>>>>>>> fathers were not waxing and waning philosophically – well, 
>>>>>>>>>> they were not / only/ doing that – they were expressing the 
>>>>>>>>>> lived experience of the settlers in the new world.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation 
>>>>>>>>>> was one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal 
>>>>>>>>>> ownership discouraging productive work, and one where 
>>>>>>>>>> resentment was inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort 
>>>>>>>>>> was not. Communal ownership of property had failed in practice 
>>>>>>>>>> because it was first a failed theory.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Private property is a natural right that flows from our 
>>>>>>>>>> ability to earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits 
>>>>>>>>>> of our own labor. It produces responsibility, stewardship, and 
>>>>>>>>>> abundance that align with human nature.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> David L. Bahnsen
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about 
>>>>>>>>> freedom and flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 
>>>>>>>>> are enslaved to a nation-state system that coercively 
>>>>>>>>> interferes with basic freedom of movement
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are not responsible for anyone jerking themselves off, or not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are responsible only for your own jerking off - hopefully at 
>>>>>>>> home on your own time, maybe in the bathroom. Hopefully nobody 
>>>>>>>> is forcing you to stoop to self abuse, but that happens in 
>>>>>>>> marriage, especially just after giving birth. YMMV.
>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>> this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can 
>>>>>>>>> do is keep crying endlessly about private property, as 
>>>>>>>>> violently owning stuff is the _only_ principle you actually 
>>>>>>>>> care about
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You have my sympathies. It's tough getting cut off! Remember, 
>>>>>>>> you have a human right to pleasure yourself!
>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>   > what disgustingly creepy inhumane fuck you are
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's nothing to be ashamed of, Nick.
>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>   > #god
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> nice how you just ignored how capitalism went and chained 7/8 
>>>>>>> people of the entire planet to their respective nation states in 
>>>>>>> service of the only principle they actually care about: private 
>>>>>>> property
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are incorrect. 99.9% of all people on earth live in nation 
>>>>>> states.
>>>>>
>>>>> you are retarded
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You snipped this out:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The United Nations explicitly states that humans have rights from 
>>>>>> birth in Article 1 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, 
>>>>>> which proclaims that "all human beings are born free and equal in 
>>>>>> dignity and rights".
>>>>>
>>>>> well we've clearly failed to achieve that since most humans are 
>>>>> chained to their nation states and lack equal freedom of movement
>>>>>
>>>> When the United Nations General Assembly adopted the Universal 
>>>> Declaration of Human Rights, out of the 58 member states at the 
>>>> time, 48 voted in favor, none voted against, 8 abstained, and 2 were 
>>>> absent.
>>>>
>>>>  >
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> fuck you you dumb boomer cunt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You snipped something out and cross-posted. Let me repeat:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We studied this in school: The French Revolution
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in 
>>>>>> 1789.. Established private property as a basic human right. How?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal 
>>>>>> protections for individual ownership in the Declaration of the 
>>>>>> Rights of Man.
>>>>>
>>>>> see what i mean? ur still defending property instead of addressing 
>>>>> the fact 7/8 on this planet are not free enough to simply walk 
>>>>> around freely
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The 8 Abstaining Countries:
>>>>
>>>> Saudi Arabia (objected to certain articles, such as freedom of 
>>>> religion and the right to change one's religion, viewing them as 
>>>> contrary to Islamic law)South Africa (abstained due to its apartheid 
>>>> system, which conflicted with the declaration's principles on racial 
>>>> equality)
>>>> Soviet Union
>>>> Belarus
>>>> Ukrainian
>>>> Czechoslovakia
>>>> Poland
>>>
>>> is this supposed to somehow defend the rest of world which hasn't 
>>> managed basic freedom or movement??? idgaf what anyone signed dud,
>>>
>> Like I said:
>>
> 
> ur an absolute fucking unrepentant sinner unworthy of the air you breath 
> dud. find a grave and sit in it
> 
Like I said:

When the United Nations General Assembly adopted the Universal 
Declaration of Human Rights, out of the 58 member states at the time, 48 
voted in favor, none voted against, 8 abstained, and 2 were absent.