Re: as an anarchist, i'm pretty disappointed with guns nuts ...

Tara <[email protected]>
Newsgroups alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Aug 16, 2026 at 3:53:17 PM EDT, "Tara" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Aug 16, 2026 at 3:39:03 PM EDT, "dart200"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 8/16/26 12:29 PM, Wilson wrote:
>>> On 8/16/2026 3:02 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>> On 8/16/26 11:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 8/16/2026 2:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/16/26 11:20 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/16/2026 1:46 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/16/26 10:37 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/16/2026 1:58 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/15/26 9:25 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/14/2026 5:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/14/26 9:38 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/13/2026 8:49 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/13/26 1:52 PM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you even ever think about the reality that guns are in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact property?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gun ownership is very much not zero-sum, unlike the kinds of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property ownership that can then interfere with the freedoms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of others
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your belief system is a bundle of contradictions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> u don't have something worthy of being called "a belief
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system", as it's not established upon principles that u
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually uphold generally
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So you see guns as being a special kind of property.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What if someone can't afford a gun? In that case it's pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear your ethics would require you to redistribute partial
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ownership of your gun to him. He can't afford to get one of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> his own so you need to share.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should be glad to do it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> i do advocate for _free_ guns u moron, so yes i do think we
>>>>>>>>>>>> should actively train and arm the population (to some high
>>>>>>>>>>>> percentage). and i think we should do so on the taxpayers dime
>>>>>>>>>>>> because it's advantageous for the preservation of liberty, to
>>>>>>>>>>>> have a distributed the common defense against tyranny. we have
>>>>>>>>>>>> than enough gun production to achieve this
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> And who would be paying for the "free" guns and that training?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> progressive taxes, like how we pay for the military already dud
>>>>>>>>> So you're counting on the government to fund the thing that will
>>>>>>>>> stop the government if they get too despotic and authoritarian.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> state level taxes my dud, i don't think the federal govt even has
>>>>>>>> the power to fund state militia. and yes, i expect having each
>>>>>>>> state funding their own militia to be a robust enough protection
>>>>>>>> against federal tyranny
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Okay. Good luck with that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> i put every cop's and kid's death from guns squarely on the fucking
>>>>>> retarded cons who refuse to deal with the massive liability that are
>>>>>> gun rights
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> it's ur fault u evil motherfucker
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> No one cares about your evil fantasies.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> YES, YOU DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT THE GUN DEATHS U EVIL MOTHERFUCKER
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I dont care about your evil fantasies.
>>> 
>> 
>> the guns deaths in country are far from fantasies u evil denialist fuck
> 
> Try to imagine if guns weren't allowed in the United States. What do you think
> the statistics would look like?
> 
> The gun death rate per capita in the United States is typically 7 to 8 times
> higher—than the rate in Canada.
> 
> Overall Rates:
>  United States: The total firearm mortality rate is roughly 13.7 to 14+ deaths
> per 100,000 people (according to data compiled by organizations like the
> Giffords Law Center).
> 
> Canada: The total firearm death rate is notably lower, historically hovering
> around 0.5 to 2.0 per 100,000 people depending on whether you look strictly at
> homicides or total firearm deaths (suicides, accidents, and homicides
> combined).

and this:

Homicide and Firearm Breakdown Firearm Homicides:

According to a comparative analysis by Statistics Canada, 76% of all homicides
in the United States in recent years were firearm-related, compared to 38% in
Canada.

Non-Firearm Homicides: Interestingly, when firearm-related homicides are
excluded, the non-firearm homicide rates in both countries are nearly
identical (about 1.24 per 100,000 in the U.S. vs. 1.18 in Canada), meaning the
vast gap in total homicide and violent death rates is driven almost entirely
by access to and use of firearms.For more in-depth comparative data, read the
full report via Statistics Canada or explore summaries at CBC News.
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