Re: Jason Arday’s death is dreadful – a nd enraging

Wilson <[email protected]>
Newsgroups alt.buddha.short.fat.guy
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 8/16/2026 5:55 PM, Julian wrote:
> On 16/08/2026 22:14, Wilson wrote:
>> On 8/16/2026 2:47 PM, Julian wrote:
>>> On 16/08/2026 19:32, Julian wrote:
>>>> On 16/08/2026 19:09, Tara wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 16, 2026 at 1:31:12 PM EDT, "Wilson" 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/16/2026 12:52 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2026 at 11:03:20 AM EDT, "Creon" <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 14:54:20 +0100, Julian 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 16/08/2026 13:51, Creon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 11:24:40 +0100, Julian 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We couldn’t save Jason
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Brendan O’Neill
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you agree with Mr. O'Neill's assessment?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Because if he had thoughts of "un-aliving" himself, people
>>>>>>>>>> should have been getting him the help that he needed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Writing an opinion piece pointing fingers doesn't help -- what
>>>>>>>>>> would help is an a-political discussion of how those he knew, 
>>>>>>>>>> or the system, or both; failed him.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure from where an a-political discussion will arise.
>>>>>>>>> Everything about the tragic saga was political from inception.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But do you agree with Mr. O'Neill's conclusion?  The mental
>>>>>>>> health aspect is what I'm trying to discuss.  (If you want to
>>>>>>>> turn it into a political discussion -- aright, I'm out.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you can focus on one or the other but by doing that, you will 
>>>>>>> miss the whole picture.
>>>>>>> Arday's state of  mental health wasn't acknowledged because of 
>>>>>>> politial bias.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Arday was a man who did not think it was wrong to lie about his life
>>>>>> history. His made up stories if investigated at all, would have been
>>>>>> seen as obvious fakery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They weren't investigated by the people who should have done so 
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> the person of Arday his story supported their worldview and furthered
>>>>>> their ideology.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When he was finally asked about the more outlandish things he 
>>>>>> said, "To
>>>>>> be honest with you, I thought you’d just believe me."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That such a person might also be mentally unstable is no surprise 
>>>>>> to any normal well-adjusted human being.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well pointed.  Shame on Cambridge.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but Cambridge is just the gilded tip of the iceberg.
>>>> Standards across the entire industry have been gutted and
>>>> the plan is to tax non state controlled education into
>>>> extinction. It's slow motion Pol Pottery.
>>>
>>> The ability to spell will become a death warrant, the new spectacles.
>>> https://order-order.com/2026/07/28/education-secretary-says-spelling- 
>>> and-grammar-tests-are-too-obscure-and-takes-aim-at-exams-and-ofsted/
>>
>> It all seems a bit too on the nose.
>>
>> Imagine a world with a leadership class who saw their progeny's 
>> futures threatened by competition from upstart lower classes, and who 
>> wished to permanently entrench themselves and their heirs. In this 
>> purely *imaginary* world, would they do anything different than 
>> importing a lot of low-skilled labor from poorer societies to suppress 
>> the wages and bargaining power among the native working classes? And 
>> then reduce the education standards for those who are not in their elite?
>>
>> In such an imaginary world I'd expect the top universities to somehow 
>> hold onto their very high standards (for example by having a scandal 
>> or two surrounding some very unqualified professors) while other 
>> universities were strongly encouraged (perhaps through those VAT 
>> taxes, grade inflation, and expanded access via equity standards) to 
>> lower theirs in the name of fairness.
>>
>> This would simultaneously protect the scarcity value of those holding 
>> the highest credentials while allowing the dilution of standards 
>> further down the hierarchy. The overall effect would reduce 
>> opportunity and income among the lower classes. And to prevent a 
>> genuine class on class conflict, media stories to keep them fighting 
>> amongst themselves over race and gay equity. The ultimate goal being 
>> to steepen the status curve to make upward mobility ever harder for 
>> outsiders.
>>
>> Just as a purely academic thought experiment. I'd never encourage 
>> anyone to look at current events through that lens >:)

> https://theideaslab.substack.com/p/red-princes-hereditary-politics-and

Fair enough. People will be people.
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