Re: Jason Arday’s death is dreadful – a nd enraging

On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 17:28:21 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 8/16/2026 5:14 PM, Wilson wrote:
>> On 8/16/2026 2:47 PM, Julian wrote:
>>> On 16/08/2026 19:32, Julian wrote:
>>>> On 16/08/2026 19:09, Tara wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 16, 2026 at 1:31:12?PM EDT, "Wilson" <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/16/2026 12:52 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2026 at 11:03:20?AM EDT, "Creon" <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 14:54:20 +0100, Julian 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 16/08/2026 13:51, Creon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 11:24:40 +0100, Julian 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We couldn’t save Jason
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Brendan O’Neill
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you agree with Mr. O'Neill's assessment?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Because if he had thoughts of "un-aliving" himself, people
>>>>>>>>>> should have been getting him the help that he needed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Writing an opinion piece pointing fingers doesn't help -- what
>>>>>>>>>> would help is an a-political discussion of how those he knew, 
>>>>>>>>>> or the system, or both; failed him.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure from where an a-political discussion will arise.
>>>>>>>>> Everything about the tragic saga was political from inception.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But do you agree with Mr. O'Neill's conclusion?  The mental
>>>>>>>> health aspect is what I'm trying to discuss.  (If you want to
>>>>>>>> turn it into a political discussion -- aright, I'm out.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you can focus on one or the other but by doing that, you will miss 
>>>>>>> the whole picture.
>>>>>>> Arday's state of  mental health wasn't acknowledged because of 
>>>>>>> politial bias.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Arday was a man who did not think it was wrong to lie about his life
>>>>>> history. His made up stories if investigated at all, would have been
>>>>>> seen as obvious fakery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They weren't investigated by the people who should have done so 
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> the person of Arday his story supported their worldview and furthered
>>>>>> their ideology.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When he was finally asked about the more outlandish things he said, 
>>>>>> "To
>>>>>> be honest with you, I thought you’d just believe me."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That such a person might also be mentally unstable is no surprise 
>>>>>> to any normal well-adjusted human being.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well pointed.  Shame on Cambridge.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but Cambridge is just the gilded tip of the iceberg.
>>>> Standards across the entire industry have been gutted and
>>>> the plan is to tax non state controlled education into
>>>> extinction. It's slow motion Pol Pottery.
>>>
>>> The ability to spell will become a death warrant, the new spectacles.
>>> https://order-order.com/2026/07/28/education-secretary-says-spelling- 
>>> and-grammar-tests-are-too-obscure-and-takes-aim-at-exams-and-ofsted/
>> 
>> It all seems a bit too on the nose.
>> 
>> Imagine a world with a leadership class who saw their progeny's futures 
>> threatened by competition from upstart lower classes, and who wished to 
>> permanently entrench themselves and their heirs. In this purely 
>> *imaginary* world, would they do anything different than importing a lot 
>> of low-skilled labor from poorer societies to suppress the wages and 
>> bargaining power among the native working classes? And then reduce the 
>> education standards for those who are not in their elite?
>> 
>> In such an imaginary world I'd expect the top universities to somehow 
>> hold onto their very high standards (for example by having a scandal or 
>> two surrounding some very unqualified professors) while other 
>> universities were strongly encouraged (perhaps through those VAT taxes, 
>> grade inflation, and expanded access via equity standards) to lower 
>> theirs in the name of fairness.
>> 
>> This would simultaneously protect the scarcity value of those holding 
>> the highest credentials while allowing the dilution of standards further 
>> down the hierarchy. The overall effect would reduce opportunity and 
>> income among the lower classes. And to prevent a genuine class on class 
>> conflict, media stories to keep them fighting amongst themselves over 
>> race and gay equity. The ultimate goal being to steepen the status curve 
>> to make upward mobility ever harder for outsiders.
>
>Also, somewhere in this scenario it would be very handy to introduce an 
>ever growing surveillance system. They might say it was to "fight terror 
>and extremism". While they imported terrorists.
>
>Like I said it's all a bit too on the nose.

"While they import terrorists."  That is nonsense.  Take that on the
nose.

>> 
>> Just as a purely academic thought experiment. I'd never encourage anyone 
>> to look at current events through that lens >:)
>> 
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