Re: The Absolute Truth

On 8/17/26 11:04 AM, Dude wrote:
> On 8/16/2026 6:19 PM, Creon wrote:
>> At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 21:48:27 GMT, Dude
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Doc Hammerslack" <[email protected]> posted:
>>>
>>>> At Sat, 15 Aug 2026 09:57:22 -0400, Noah Sombrero <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 06:54:10 +0000, Creon <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> At Fri, 14 Aug 2026 20:00:49 -0700, Dude <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just tell the Truth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will someone, anyone, tell me the Truth? For God's sake. Just
>>>>>>> spell out the whole goddamned absolute truth! Or, just keep on
>>>>>>> lying. Lying to yourself! YMMV.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "In the beginning was the Word..."[*]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Logos", thought by some pre-Socratic philosophers to mean
>>>>>> "the divine order" -- that is to say, the Laws of Nature.[***]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [*] Literally, "Logos"[**]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [**] An idea that had been around longer that 500 years before
>>>>>> the author of the fourth gospel tried to claim Jesus was its
>>>>>> personification.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [***] A close reading of _A Brief History of Time_ will find
>>>>>> Dr. Hawking appears to agree.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...Um, wait -- were you talking about "truth" or "TRVTH"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Only a LIAR asks what is TRVTH? - Pilate.
>>>>
>>>> I constructed that whole post, and _that's_ what you
>>>> came out with on the other end? smdh.
>>>>
>>>> Some of us (TINU), for whom the "truth" has become synonymous with
>>>> "TRVTH", have learned to *survive* by pulling the wool over our
>>>> _own_ eyes.
>>>>
>>>> All we can do is try to leverage what time we have left, to try
>>>> to make the world a better place.
>>>>
>>>> (And here it is, almost 2 in the morning, and I'm taking the
>>>> time to explain that.  For more fun, I joust windmills.)
>>>>
>>> It should go without saying, that the absolute truth can't be put
>>> into words.
>>>
>>> Having said that, there are actually two truths: there is relative
>>> truth and there is absolute truth.
>>>
>>> Just saying.
>>>
>>> Since 1993, thousands have come here to get enlightened. Never
>>> underestimate the power of very short spans of time. In a flash of
>>> insight, you could be new all through. It could happen to you.
>>
>> You know just as well as I do that there are different types
>> of "enlightenment".
>>
> Enlightenment. If you can't get it here, you will probably never get it. 
> YMMV.
> 
> "If you can't see where you are sitting you will never see." - Basho
>  >
> 
>> Kensho is one.  I don't think people come here for that -- or do they?
>> (Beats me.)
>>
> Enlightenment can be sudden or gradual, or not at all. Thousands have 
> come here and got enlightened, and left after getting enlightened to 
> spread the word:
> 
> "Religion. Not religion. Both. Neither."

one thing is for sure dud:

enlightenment won't be happening until ur dead and rotting in the 
ground. some people willfully refuse to be saved so we'll just have to 
wait until the problem self-resolves.
>  >
> 
>> We talked about this at our UU men's alpha group recently, where
>> the topic of discussion rolled around to people who self-report
>> certain things, such as "I am enlightened" or "I am not conscious."
>>
>> (Personally, I think if someone reports themself as "not conscious",
>> you should believe them, and take it as an opportunity to really
>> talk with them about what it means to be a verifiable "philosophical
>> zombie".)
>>
>> One of the guys, a wise old sage, said, "Alright, you've found
>> me out -- I am 'enlightened'.  Prove me wrong."  Later he also
>> revealed he was a space alien sent to Earth to study our species.
>> Then he let on that he was kidding about the latter, and that he
>> was thinking of starting a blog with that premise.
>>
>> Oh, and finally:  "dart200", you could have your own blog for
>> the low, low price of $5/mo at Digital Ocean.  (Of course, if it
>> gets popular, you'll need a bigger vps than the starter kit...)
>>
> 


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