Re: as an anarchist, i'm pretty disappointed with guns nuts ...

On 8/17/2026 1:40 PM, Tara wrote:
> On Aug 17, 2026 at 4:24:52 PM EDT, "Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 8/17/2026 3:34 PM, Tara wrote:
>>> On Aug 17, 2026 at 3:26:05 PM EDT, "Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On 8/17/2026 3:02 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 17, 2026 at 2:45:52 PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guns are tools for killing people.  So best idea:  don't have a gun
>>>>>> unless you intend to kill people.
>>>>>
>>>>> assault guns and hand guns have only one use - killing other people
>>>>>
>>>>> Rifles, long and shot guns are for hunting and are for killing animals
>>>>> (preferably for food) and in rare occasions, for animal defence. If you aren't
>>>>> using them, or have them for these reasons, you don't need them.
>>>>>
>>>>> simple, right.
>>>>
>>>> The neat thing about human rights that are encoded in written
>>>> constitution that includes the right own and bear arms, is that it
>>>> prevents other people telling you that you can't own a gun. And in those
>>>> places where you do have the right to use force in self-defense to
>>>> protect your life, people can do that.
>>>>
>>>> In other words, you don't get a say in the matter.
>>>
>>> Exactly. We didn't want that right in our Constitution. So we do get a say. No
>>> really, I just want to stop the smuggling of guns from the U.S. across the
>>> border into Canada. We have enough problems to deal with:).
>>
>> In the US the purchaser needs to provide ID when buying a gun, and it's
>> illegal to buy a gun if it's intended for another person. And it's
>> illegal in both the US and Canada to smuggle them.
>>
>> So it's likely most of the guns that are used in crimes in Canada were
>> stolen from legal owners.
>>
>> It's so easy to smuggle something small like a gun. If it's going to be
>> stopped it will probably have to be by putting your gun criminals away
>> for a long time.
> 
> Illegal handguns in Canada primarily originate from the United States, where
> they are heavily trafficked across the border to feed a lucrative black
> market. While overall crime gun data from the RCMP includes many domestically
> sourced long guns used in rural areas, tracing data specifically for handguns
> recovered in major urban centers—like Toronto and across Ontario—shows that
> 85% to 90% are smuggled from the U.S..
> -Bbc
> 
> They are hidden in gas tanks, the trunks of cars, in luggage, or on someone's
> body. In one remarkable instance involving Montrealer Alexis Vlachos, firearms
> were smuggled through a public library that straddles the border with the U.S.
> 
>      Last year, The Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) was granted an extra
> $51.5 million in funding over five years to enhance screening, detection and
> training around firearms smuggling. The RCMP were also given $34.5 million
> over five years for the new Integrated Criminal Firearms Initiative to enhance
> intelligence gathering, technology and investigations.
> 
> Superintendent Jason Crowley with the Windsor police department says the
> appeal of smuggling guns is pure economics.
> 
> "You will see a gun, a firearm purchased in the States for potentially $200 to
> $300, and they'll go on the streets [in Canada] for $3,000."
> 
> Crowley calls it a "pipeline" — guns smuggled across the border from Detroit
> into Windsor, and then to cities across the country. He says the influx of
> firearms has contributed to an increase in violent gun crime in Canada.
> 
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/national-gun-trafficking-straw-buying-smuggling-firearms-1.5126228
 >
Apparently, when looking at Canada as a whole, (RCMP) tracking reports 
found that the majority of all traced crime guns are actually domestic.

This is because the nationwide data includes a large volume of rifles 
and shotguns (long guns) seized in rural areas, which are overwhelmingly 
sourced within Canada rather than smuggled.