Re: as an anarchist, i'm pretty disappointed with guns nuts ...

On 8/18/2026 9:52 AM, Tara wrote:
> On Aug 18, 2026 at 12:28:23 PM EDT, "Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 8/17/2026 4:40 PM, Tara wrote:
>>> On Aug 17, 2026 at 4:24:52 PM EDT, "Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/17/2026 3:34 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 17, 2026 at 3:26:05 PM EDT, "Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/17/2026 3:02 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2026 at 2:45:52 PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Guns are tools for killing people.  So best idea:  don't have a gun
>>>>>>>> unless you intend to kill people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> assault guns and hand guns have only one use - killing other people
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rifles, long and shot guns are for hunting and are for killing animals
>>>>>>> (preferably for food) and in rare occasions, for animal defence. If you aren't
>>>>>>> using them, or have them for these reasons, you don't need them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> simple, right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The neat thing about human rights that are encoded in written
>>>>>> constitution that includes the right own and bear arms, is that it
>>>>>> prevents other people telling you that you can't own a gun. And in those
>>>>>> places where you do have the right to use force in self-defense to
>>>>>> protect your life, people can do that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other words, you don't get a say in the matter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly. We didn't want that right in our Constitution. So we do get a say. No
>>>>> really, I just want to stop the smuggling of guns from the U.S. across the
>>>>> border into Canada. We have enough problems to deal with:).
>>>>
>>>> In the US the purchaser needs to provide ID when buying a gun, and it's
>>>> illegal to buy a gun if it's intended for another person. And it's
>>>> illegal in both the US and Canada to smuggle them.
>>>>
>>>> So it's likely most of the guns that are used in crimes in Canada were
>>>> stolen from legal owners.
>>>>
>>>> It's so easy to smuggle something small like a gun. If it's going to be
>>>> stopped it will probably have to be by putting your gun criminals away
>>>> for a long time.
>>>
>>> Illegal handguns in Canada primarily originate from the United States, where
>>> they are heavily trafficked across the border to feed a lucrative black
>>> market. While overall crime gun data from the RCMP includes many domestically
>>> sourced long guns used in rural areas, tracing data specifically for handguns
>>> recovered in major urban centers—like Toronto and across Ontario—shows that
>>> 85% to 90% are smuggled from the U.S..
>>> -Bbc
>>>
>>> They are hidden in gas tanks, the trunks of cars, in luggage, or on someone's
>>> body. In one remarkable instance involving Montrealer Alexis Vlachos, firearms
>>> were smuggled through a public library that straddles the border with the U.S.
>>>
>>>       Last year, The Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) was granted an extra
>>> $51.5 million in funding over five years to enhance screening, detection and
>>> training around firearms smuggling. The RCMP were also given $34.5 million
>>> over five years for the new Integrated Criminal Firearms Initiative to enhance
>>> intelligence gathering, technology and investigations.
>>>
>>> Superintendent Jason Crowley with the Windsor police department says the
>>> appeal of smuggling guns is pure economics.
>>>
>>> "You will see a gun, a firearm purchased in the States for potentially $200 to
>>> $300, and they'll go on the streets [in Canada] for $3,000."
>>>
>>> Crowley calls it a "pipeline" — guns smuggled across the border from Detroit
>>> into Windsor, and then to cities across the country. He says the influx of
>>> firearms has contributed to an increase in violent gun crime in Canada.
>>>
>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/national-gun-trafficking-straw-buying-smuggling-firearms-1.5126228
>>
>> So what is Canada going to do to stop it?
> 
> Accept that there is nothing we can do to stop it fully. What we can do is
> keep it down as best we can.
 >
Apparently, when looking at Canada as a whole, (RCMP) tracking reports 
found that the majority of all traced crime guns are actually domestic.

This is because the nationwide data includes a large volume of rifles 
and shotguns (long guns) seized in rural areas, which are overwhelmingly 
sourced within Canada rather than smuggled.