Re: The Debt Trap
Julian <[email protected]>
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On 19/08/2026 01:55, marika wrote: > Julian <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 15/08/2026 21:06, Tara wrote: >>> On Aug 15, 2026 at 3:36:22 PM EDT, "Tara" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On Aug 15, 2026 at 2:44:21 PM EDT, "Julian" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 15/08/2026 18:34, Wilson wrote: >>>>>> We're caught in a trap >>>>>> I can't walk out >>>>>> Because I love you too much, baby >>>>>> Why can't you see >>>>>> What you're doing to me >>>>>> When you don't believe a word I say? >>>>>> -Suspicious Minds, Elvis Presley, 1969 >>>>>> >>>>>> Elvis Presley’s rendition of Suspicious Minds topped the record charts >>>>>> in 1969. The lyrics portray a romance that couldn’t work, but was also >>>>>> impossible to escape. That’s also a good way to describe our >>>>>> relationship with government debt. We know it can’t last, but we can’t >>>>>> walk out. We love government spending and its benefits (like Medicare, >>>>>> Social Security, and unemployment insurance) too much. >>>>>> >>>>>> In other words, we are in a debt trap. Our political process can’t >>>>>> reduce spending and/or raise taxes enough to balance the budget, so the >>>>>> debt grows and grows. As it does, paying the interest plus the >>>>>> accumulated debt load pulls more capital away from more productive uses. >>>>>> This depresses economic growth, thereby generating even more spending >>>>>> and debt. >>>>>> >>>>>> This has to end, and I think it will do so in the event I’ve called The >>>>>> Great Reset. When I first started talking about The Great Reset, we >>>>>> weren’t in the debt trap. We were “merely” in a situation with only bad >>>>>> choices. I didn’t think we would make them. Thus the underlying >>>>>> presumption was that we would end up in a debt trap. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Great Reset will be our escape from the debt trap. It won’t be fun >>>>>> for anyone, as taxes will go up and government spending of all types cut. >>>>>> >>>>>> Diverted Capital >>>>>> >>>>>> Each additional dollar of debt in 1980 generated a rise in GDP of 60 >>>>>> cents, up from 54 cents in 1940. The 1980s was the last decade for the >>>>>> productivity of debt to rise. Since then, this ratio has dropped >>>>>> sharply, from 42 cents in 1989 to 27 cents in 2019. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let’s unpack this. Debt, even government debt, isn’t necessarily bad. It >>>>>> can actually be positive depending on how it is used. Borrowing to build >>>>>> a productive asset can make sense, if its output is sufficient to repay >>>>>> the debt and then produce even more. >>>>>> >>>>>> Like many temptations, debt can be good in moderation but destructive if >>>>>> abused. Some infrastructure spending doesn’t have a direct payoff, but >>>>>> clearly helps the overall economy, like the US interstate highway system. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let me offer a few illustrations. It seems that every congressional >>>>>> representative gives lip service to the concept of “infrastructure >>>>>> spending.” And they never really get around to doing it in any >>>>>> sufficient quantity. Airports are necessary infrastructure and are >>>>>> typically paid for by landing fees. That’s productive debt. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have read that much of the US loses up to 20% of the water our water >>>>>> systems produce due to leaky pipes. To rebuild the national water system >>>>>> would take hundreds of billions if not over $1 trillion. Congress can >>>>>> easily allow the formation of a public-private partnership and guarantee >>>>>> the bonds so the Federal Reserve could buy them. Cities could access >>>>>> those bonds and raise the cost of water by 1% or so to pay for the >>>>>> bonds. Consumer water bills should still drop since we would be saving >>>>>> the lost water. >>>>>> >>>>>> Everyone knows this. Congress does nothing. The same could be done with >>>>>> electric power. A smart grid could pay for itself even with debt costs. >>>>>> And consumer power prices would likely go down. I could go on and on. >>>>>> >>>>>> But the debt we are accumulating today is not productive in that way. We >>>>>> use it to finance current expenditures like Medicare and Social >>>>>> Security. Necessary? Absolutely. But not the economic definition of >>>>>> productive debt. >>>>>> >>>>>> Problems arise when debt becomes excessive, relative to the output it >>>>>> will produce. The cost of repaying it diverts capital from other uses, >>>>>> leaving less capital available for productive investment. You start >>>>>> needing more debt to generate the same amount of production. Or, said >>>>>> another way, each additional dollar of debt produces less benefit. >>>>>> >>>>>> Debt service comes from taxation and even more borrowing (which is the >>>>>> definition of a Ponzi scheme), which leaves businesses and families with >>>>>> less money to spend on other things. This results in lower economic >>>>>> growth, more inflation, and higher interest rates. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why is it a trap? Here’s where I have to get political. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fiscal Futility >>>>>> >>>>>> To those on the conservative side, the problem is simple. We have >>>>>> excessively high taxes and debt because the government spends too much. >>>>>> >>>>>> That’s easy to say but gets a lot more difficult when you talk specifics >>>>>> — particularly if you are a member of Congress who must answer to >>>>>> voters. Exactly which government spending would you like to cut? What >>>>>> programs, departments, and agencies would you eliminate? Every dollar >>>>>> the government spends has a constituency — people who benefit from it >>>>>> and will fight to preserve it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Large amounts of spending are essentially on autopilot: Social Security, >>>>>> Medicare, assorted social programs, interest on the debt. These >>>>>> “mandatory” expenditures happen automatically, no matter the amounts, >>>>>> without Congress acting at all. The simple fact is that this mandatory >>>>>> spending plus defense spending is now consuming all tax revenue before >>>>>> any other government services are paid for on the federal level. >>>>>> >>>>>> The so-called “discretionary” budget that Congress votes on (defense and >>>>>> all the assorted departments and agencies) is relatively minor. You >>>>>> could cut it all in half and we would still have a serious problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> When Trump first entered office the US deficit as percentage of GDP was >>>>>> less than 5%. That pandemic-year deficit peaked at 16% of GDP, or $3.1 >>>>>> trillion. Fast-forward to today: the FY2025 deficit came in at $1.8 >>>>>> trillion — 5.9% of GDP, well below the pandemic peak but still about 55% >>>>>> above the 50-year historical average of 3.8% of GDP. And it’s headed the >>>>>> wrong way again. The CBO’s latest FY2026 estimate is $2.1 trillion, up >>>>>> from $1.9 trillion projected back in February, after the Supreme Court >>>>>> struck down the IEEPA tariffs in February 2026 and blew a roughly $200 >>>>>> billion hole in expected tariff revenue. Whoever is in the White House, >>>>>> the deficit keeps landing in roughly the same trap. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sad to say, government spending just keeps growing no matter which party >>>>>> is in power. We have crossed a form of political Rubicon where past >>>>>> performance is not indicative of future results. The few serious fiscal >>>>>> conservatives are now gone after finding the Republican Party under >>>>>> Trump spends differently than Democrats would, but has no desire to >>>>>> spend less. >>>>>> >>>>>> And that’s the real problem: Voters like all this spending. They differ >>>>>> on priorities, but no one really wants to balance the budget. There is >>>>>> no desire to make the sacrifices and endure the pain it would take to >>>>>> change the course we are on. So, it won’t change, and debt will keep >>>>>> piling up. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jaws of the Trap >>>>>> >>>>>> Debt, as I have said many times, is future consumption pulled forward in >>>>>> time. It lets us consume more today by consuming less in the future. >>>>>> There is a school of thought which says this doesn’t matter because we >>>>>> can always just keep pushing the due date further out. I disagree, and >>>>>> Lacy Hunt’s research explains why. >>>>>> >>>>>> While debt can be a problem, private debt is also critical to economic >>>>>> growth. It finances innovation and adds to the economy’s productive >>>>>> capacity. Excessive government debt diverts resources away from >>>>>> investment, without which growth slows to a crawl. Lacy proves this >>>>>> mathematically but really, all you have to do is look at GDP growth >>>>>> around the world since 2008. Europe, Japan, and the US have all >>>>>> struggled to maintain positive growth. It was only a matter of time >>>>>> until something pushed us all underwater. The pandemic did it. By 2026 >>>>>> it’s a different pressure doing the pushing — elevated-for-longer >>>>>> interest costs and a wall of AI-driven capital spending are testing the >>>>>> same limit from the other direction. >>>>>> >>>>>> All that being said, this can continue far longer than most people >>>>>> think. Japan is now at 248.7% (2025) of debt to GDP. Eurozone debt is >>>>>> about 87.8% (2025), but that understates the true situation in most >>>>>> countries. The US, on the same gross-debt basis, was at 122.6% in early >>>>>> 2026. Europe and Japan both have low or nonexistent GDP growth. The >>>>>> explosion of US debt means the US will soon join them. The answer from >>>>>> almost every economist of any stripe about how to fix the debt problem >>>>>> is to “grow our way out of it.” The problem is we have passed the point >>>>>> of no return. >>>>>> >>>>>> We can’t stop growing debt. That would bring down the system in a true >>>>>> greater-than-the-Great Depression crash. What do you cut? Social >>>>>> Security? Medicare? Military pensions? Education? Interest payments on >>>>>> the debt? The State Department? The only way to maintain that spending >>>>>> is to keep adding debt, which sends us further into the debt trap. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anomalies in Paradise >>>>>> >>>>>> At some point, this will simply stop working. That moment is when the >>>>>> world will face what I first called The Great Reset over a decade ago. I >>>>>> am often asked exactly when it will happen. I typically demur as taking >>>>>> a date is tricky. But I think we can narrow it down. >>>>>> >>>>>> Right now, the Social Security Administration says that Social Security >>>>>> will have to be cut by roughly 22% at some point in 2033. 10 years ago >>>>>> they said 2034. Without some major changes in the economy, that will >>>>>> probably slip to 2032. It will be an election year and that will become >>>>>> the major topic. >>>>>> >>>>>> We are now at $39.9 trillion of US [federal] debt. Interest on the debt >>>>>> is $1.1 trillion, at an interest rate of a little under 3%. That rate is >>>>>> obviously rising. Deficits are climbing over $2 trillion per year. By >>>>>> 2031, the debt will be over $50 trillion. Interest costs will run >>>>>> anywhere from an optimistically estimated low of $1.5 trillion to over >>>>>> $2 trillion. That’s assuming no recession. >>>>>> >>>>>> We are not going to cut Social Security for the vast majority of >>>>>> recipients. The compromise will likely be some combination of raising >>>>>> the age of benefits, means testing and increasing Social Security taxes. >>>>>> But that doesn’t solve the rest of the deficit problem. Somewhere around >>>>>> that time the bond markets will finally say, “Enough, already!” Congress >>>>>> will be forced by markets to act. >>>>>> >>>>>> Spoiler alert: We will need to completely revamp our tax code, with a >>>>>> greater percentage of GDP going to taxes than any of us want. But we’ll >>>>>> have to collect it differently and not destroy incentives as Europe and >>>>>> Japan have done. Sadly, I don’t expect a willingness to do that, at >>>>>> least political willingness, until we are already in the middle of aThe >>>>>> deep crisis. The bad news is we will get one and maybe change some things. >>>>>> >>>>>> We built our dreams on excessive debt. Now we can’t go on together. >>>>>> We’re caught in a trap. We can’t walk out. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.mauldineconomics.com/frontlinethoughts/caught-in-a-debt-trap >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh18YXKM >>>> >>>> if nothing else, I now understand how poop gets stuck in the K-bend. >>>> (Commercial :) >>> >>> The video is good. Not that I understand a lot of it, but there >>> is something about how a brit tells it that makes it entertaining. >> >> Patrick is Irish. :) He's a great story teller. >> > > Is he better than Melania Trump Comparisons are odorous.