Re: Why the ‘Be Kind’ b rigade are so horri ble (was: Why the ??Be Kind?? b rigade are so horri ble)

On Aug 19, 2026 at 11:12:49 AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:39:24 -0000 (UTC), Tara <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2026 at 5:32:12?AM EDT, "Julian" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> The Green Party came to prominence earlier this year by forever
>>> promising ‘hope not hate’. Indeed, that dreamy yearning played a key
>>> part in securing an unprecedented mandate in the May local elections,
>>> when a callow cohort of progressive twenty-somethings, wooed by these
>>> nice-sounding words, helped to put the Greens into power in many
>>> inner-city councils. This is the same demographic who are also receptive
>>> to similar utopian platitudes about abolishing borders, housing
>>> immigrants, and free bus travel, free university education and free
>>> childcare. Free everything, if possible, courtesy of ‘the billionaires’,
>>> who in the Green Party’s ethereal vision will obligingly pay for it all.
>>> 
>>> Yet such charmingly naïve sentiments seems to jar with Green Party
>>> rhetoric in regard to Israel and the Jews. When it comes to this matter,
>>> their members are rather lacking in compassion, somewhat short on soppy
>>> inanities. On this subject, they are hate-mongers of the first order.
>>> 
>>> Some Green Party activists now speak of British Jews being a ‘weapon’ of
>>> Israel, describe hostility towards Jews as ‘understandable’, and talk of
>>> ‘violent resistance’ and ‘armed struggle’ by Palestinians. Messages in a
>>> private WhatsApp group used by Green members also referred to ‘killing
>>> Zionists’. One participant in the group chat described the majority of
>>> Israeli Jews as ‘genociders’, another referred to Iran’s Islamic
>>> Revolutionary Guard Corps as ‘part of a national liberation movement’,
>>> while one Green Party parish councillor on the Isle of Wight, asked if
>>> their comment ‘Zionism has to go’ meant that they would like Israel
>>> ‘wiped off the map, in essence?,’ replied: ‘Yes, I would like that.’
>>> 
>>> For a party that likes to preach pacifism, this is fighting talk indeed.
>>> Yet far from representing a contradiction or an aberration, such
>>> bellicose sentiment is wholly consistent with the worldview of the
>>> idealistic, progressive left.
>>> 
>>>  From the Jacobins to the Bolsheviks to the Khmer Rouge, those who have
>>> combined idealistic utopianism, unassailable righteousness, the pursuit
>>> of absolute egalitarianism, and a quasi-religious sense of mission have
>>> always spoken with belligerence – and usually acted upon it. The
>>> inevitable catastrophic and bloody fate of utopian movements partly
>>> stems from the necessary payoff between liberty and equality – you can
>>> have more of one only at the expense of having less of the other, so the
>>> pursuit of complete equality must entail the complete elimination of
>>> liberty – but it’s also the consequence of people being beholden to
>>> unshakeable convictions.
>>> 
>>> To paraphrase Yeats, those possessed with convictions and passionate
>>> intensity are the worst types. Those who present themselves as
>>> unquestionably caring and good and on the ‘right side of history’ always
>>> feel at licence to behave as they please, because they see their
>>> opponents as being on the side of evil.
>>> 
>>> This is why many will also recognise another related, longer-standing
>>> and similarly ostensible contradiction in politics: the propensity of
>>> those who profess to ‘Be Kind’ to act abhorrently online. They feel at
>>> liberty to be as vile and personal in their insults because all is
>>> forgiven if you have right on your side. In the minds of the elect,
>>> those who hold opposite opinions are already dehumanised.
>>> 
>>> What makes the self-righteous fury of the hard-left today all the more
>>> toxic is that it has been enabled by a culture that valorises victimhood
>>> and equates it with moral superiority. Those who present themselves as
>>> victims of political oppression, or ally themselves to others in that
>>> position (in this case, the Palestinians) are even more likely to have
>>> recourse to bellicose language. The wrath of ideologues with good on
>>> their side is even harder to gainsay when they add to their argument
>>> that they are victims, and that the pain they feel is your fault – as a
>>> straight white man, or as someone who is ‘right wing’, or as a Jew.
>>> 
>>> This noxious admixture of ideological certitude, victimhood and
>>> infantile sentimentality helps to explain the recent rise of ultra-left
>>> violence. The return to the headlines last week of Luigi Mangione is a
>>> reminder of how this combination works. It was not merely Mangione’s
>>> actions that are telling – he shot and killed the CEO of a private
>>> healthcare provider in December 2024 – but the manner in which he was
>>> subsequently feted by those who think some people deserve to die for
>>> being capitalists, for not being caring.
>>> 
>>> Mangione’s actions can be seen in context with the murder of Charlie
>>> Kirk, or in this country, the emergence of the militant transgender
>>> rights group Bash Back, and indeed Palestine Action, an outfit which
>>> also has no qualms about using violence if it’s for a ‘good cause’.
>>> 
>>> One can therefore be shocked, but not confused, at what we are hearing
>>> today from the mouths of some Greens. The boastfully compassionate,
>>> those brimming with convictions, are often those who are also full of hate.
> 
> And this too is hate.

How about you fix the 'hate' on your end. Be an example for the other side. 
Eh eh eh
> 
>>> 
>>> Patrick West
>> 
>> Moral mandate - be kind or we'll make ya be
> 
> Or
> 
> Be unkind or we'll make ya be
> 
> Remembering in the days of hippies.  A person might laughably say, "I
> want peace so bad, I am going to riot and break windows, and beat you
> up if you don't give it to me."

Nope. In Canada, it was just a bunch of stoners getting high or tripping on
acid -all the while dunking Dad's cookies in milk. Or so I'm told. :) The
riots and such were in your county because you had a war going on.   
> 
> Let us not allow such attitudes blind us to the truth that war is a
> bad deal for everybody.  We really should try to avoid it.  Among all
> the other bad deals.

Agreed -  War is a bad deal.