Re: Why the ‘Be Kind’ b rigade are so horri ble

On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:21:59 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 8/19/2026 6:39 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 18:19:37 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8/19/2026 8:12 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 14:39:24 -0000 (UTC), Tara <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 19, 2026 at 5:32:12?AM EDT, "Julian" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Green Party came to prominence earlier this year by forever
>>>>>> promising ‘hope not hate’. Indeed, that dreamy yearning played a key
>>>>>> part in securing an unprecedented mandate in the May local elections,
>>>>>> when a callow cohort of progressive twenty-somethings, wooed by these
>>>>>> nice-sounding words, helped to put the Greens into power in many
>>>>>> inner-city councils. This is the same demographic who are also receptive
>>>>>> to similar utopian platitudes about abolishing borders, housing
>>>>>> immigrants, and free bus travel, free university education and free
>>>>>> childcare. Free everything, if possible, courtesy of ‘the billionaires’,
>>>>>> who in the Green Party’s ethereal vision will obligingly pay for it all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet such charmingly naïve sentiments seems to jar with Green Party
>>>>>> rhetoric in regard to Israel and the Jews. When it comes to this matter,
>>>>>> their members are rather lacking in compassion, somewhat short on soppy
>>>>>> inanities. On this subject, they are hate-mongers of the first order.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some Green Party activists now speak of British Jews being a ‘weapon’ of
>>>>>> Israel, describe hostility towards Jews as ‘understandable’, and talk of
>>>>>> ‘violent resistance’ and ‘armed struggle’ by Palestinians. Messages in a
>>>>>> private WhatsApp group used by Green members also referred to ‘killing
>>>>>> Zionists’. One participant in the group chat described the majority of
>>>>>> Israeli Jews as ‘genociders’, another referred to Iran’s Islamic
>>>>>> Revolutionary Guard Corps as ‘part of a national liberation movement’,
>>>>>> while one Green Party parish councillor on the Isle of Wight, asked if
>>>>>> their comment ‘Zionism has to go’ meant that they would like Israel
>>>>>> ‘wiped off the map, in essence?,’ replied: ‘Yes, I would like that.’
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For a party that likes to preach pacifism, this is fighting talk indeed.
>>>>>> Yet far from representing a contradiction or an aberration, such
>>>>>> bellicose sentiment is wholly consistent with the worldview of the
>>>>>> idealistic, progressive left.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    From the Jacobins to the Bolsheviks to the Khmer Rouge, those who have
>>>>>> combined idealistic utopianism, unassailable righteousness, the pursuit
>>>>>> of absolute egalitarianism, and a quasi-religious sense of mission have
>>>>>> always spoken with belligerence – and usually acted upon it. The
>>>>>> inevitable catastrophic and bloody fate of utopian movements partly
>>>>>> stems from the necessary payoff between liberty and equality – you can
>>>>>> have more of one only at the expense of having less of the other, so the
>>>>>> pursuit of complete equality must entail the complete elimination of
>>>>>> liberty – but it’s also the consequence of people being beholden to
>>>>>> unshakeable convictions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To paraphrase Yeats, those possessed with convictions and passionate
>>>>>> intensity are the worst types. Those who present themselves as
>>>>>> unquestionably caring and good and on the ‘right side of history’ always
>>>>>> feel at licence to behave as they please, because they see their
>>>>>> opponents as being on the side of evil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is why many will also recognise another related, longer-standing
>>>>>> and similarly ostensible contradiction in politics: the propensity of
>>>>>> those who profess to ‘Be Kind’ to act abhorrently online. They feel at
>>>>>> liberty to be as vile and personal in their insults because all is
>>>>>> forgiven if you have right on your side. In the minds of the elect,
>>>>>> those who hold opposite opinions are already dehumanised.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What makes the self-righteous fury of the hard-left today all the more
>>>>>> toxic is that it has been enabled by a culture that valorises victimhood
>>>>>> and equates it with moral superiority. Those who present themselves as
>>>>>> victims of political oppression, or ally themselves to others in that
>>>>>> position (in this case, the Palestinians) are even more likely to have
>>>>>> recourse to bellicose language. The wrath of ideologues with good on
>>>>>> their side is even harder to gainsay when they add to their argument
>>>>>> that they are victims, and that the pain they feel is your fault – as a
>>>>>> straight white man, or as someone who is ‘right wing’, or as a Jew.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This noxious admixture of ideological certitude, victimhood and
>>>>>> infantile sentimentality helps to explain the recent rise of ultra-left
>>>>>> violence. The return to the headlines last week of Luigi Mangione is a
>>>>>> reminder of how this combination works. It was not merely Mangione’s
>>>>>> actions that are telling – he shot and killed the CEO of a private
>>>>>> healthcare provider in December 2024 – but the manner in which he was
>>>>>> subsequently feted by those who think some people deserve to die for
>>>>>> being capitalists, for not being caring.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mangione’s actions can be seen in context with the murder of Charlie
>>>>>> Kirk, or in this country, the emergence of the militant transgender
>>>>>> rights group Bash Back, and indeed Palestine Action, an outfit which
>>>>>> also has no qualms about using violence if it’s for a ‘good cause’.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One can therefore be shocked, but not confused, at what we are hearing
>>>>>> today from the mouths of some Greens. The boastfully compassionate,
>>>>>> those brimming with convictions, are often those who are also full of hate.
>>>>
>>>> And this too is hate.
>>>>
>>> Don't you just hate that!
>>>>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patrick West
>>>>>
>>>>> Moral mandate - be kind or we'll make ya be
>>>>
>>>> Or
>>>>
>>>> Be unkind or we'll make ya be
>>>>
>>> Another wiseguy - that makes absolutely no sense. Are you smarter than a
>>> 5th grader?
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Remembering in the days of hippies.  A person might laughably say, "I
>>>> want peace so bad, I am going to riot and break windows, and beat you
>>>> up if you don't give it to me."
>>>>
>>> You must be getting senile - it was the Students For A Democratic
>>> Society (SDS) that caused the riots in Chicago.
>> 
>> You missed a lot if that is all you noticed.
>> 
>>> Not the hippies you idiot!
>>>>> Let us not allow such attitudes blind us to the truth that war is a
>>>> bad deal for everybody.  We really should try to avoid it.  Among all
>>>> the other bad deals.
>>>>
>>> You're just making up shit now. Everyone knows the hippies were for Free
>>> Love. You are such a nut sometimes, Noah!
>> 
>> Oh, they had far more interestss than that.  I was there.
> >
>The "1960s riots" involving Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) in 
>Chicago primarily refer to two major historical events: the mass 
>anti-war protests and police clashes during the 1968 Democratic National 
>Convention and the violent Days of Rage rampage launched by an SDS 
>splinter group in October 1969.
>
>Hippies were on Hippy Hill in San Francisco's Golden Gate Park. No 
>Hippies hitch hiked up to that shit hole Chicago to help foment a riot.

There were riots all over the country.  You don't remember that do
you?
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