Re: Canada vs Trump. - And the Deal goes on...

On 8/20/2026 1:57 PM, Dude wrote:
> On 8/20/2026 7:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:10:15 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/19/2026 9:40 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 15:52:00 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/19/2026 6:35 AM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This isn’t over.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> U.S. President Donald Trump likes to win. He also often likes to play
>>>>>> make-believe. He has a habit of declaring victory on social media 
>>>>>> based on few
>>>>>> discernible facts, or none at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When he has something to market, he markets it. When he doesn’t, 
>>>>>> he’s liable
>>>>>> to fake it until voters believe that he’s made it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How many times has he announced that Iran is finished? That a 
>>>>>> peace deal is
>>>>>> imminent? That the Strait of Hormuz is open, oil has never stopped 
>>>>>> flowing and
>>>>>> Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can’t count that high without an abacus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The former reality TV star also loves to engineer a cliffhanger. 
>>>>>> Hence his
>>>>>> decision to build a tariff time bomb – a 50-per-cent levy on $28- 
>>>>>> billion a
>>>>>> year of Canadian exports – and set it to go off at 12:01 a.m. on 
>>>>>> Aug. 19.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And then, just in the nick of time, he announced that all was 
>>>>>> saved, and he
>>>>>> had defused the device.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Less than two hours before midnight, he wrote on Truth Social that 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> threatened tariffs were paused because, “Canada and the U.S.A., 
>>>>>> subject to the
>>>>>> finalization of documents, have a DEAL!”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prime Minister Mark Carney’s presentation of the situation, 
>>>>>> published an hour
>>>>>> later, was rather more circumspect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “Substantial progress has been made,” the PM wrote, “although 
>>>>>> there is
>>>>>> important work still to be done.” He added that the U.S. had 
>>>>>> agreed to pause
>>>>>> the tariffs because “this work is ongoing.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recent days of intensive talks between Canada and the U.S., like 
>>>>>> the months of
>>>>>> not-much-talks that preceded them, have been marked by an extreme 
>>>>>> level of
>>>>>> opacity. Neither Ottawa nor Washington has itemized in public what 
>>>>>> demands the
>>>>>> U.S. has made of Canada, what Canada has asked of the U.S., what 
>>>>>> has been put
>>>>>> on the table by both sides and what horse-trading has taken place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yet there are many things we know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We know that Mr. Trump wants most imports, including from his 
>>>>>> partners in the
>>>>>> United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement, to be subject to U.S. 
>>>>>> tariffs. He’s
>>>>>> made exceptions for products such as oil and potash – he doesn’t 
>>>>>> want to
>>>>>> visibly raise the prices Americans pay for gasoline or food – but 
>>>>>> he appears
>>>>>> set on subjecting manufactured imports to tariffs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is a rather large problem for the integrated North American auto
>>>>>> industry, and many other Canadian industries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He also wants the rest of the world to meekly accept his tariffs 
>>>>>> and not hit
>>>>>> back. Mr. Trump hasn’t appreciated that Canada, unlike almost 
>>>>>> every other
>>>>>> country, put up its dukes and retaliated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But retaliation has given us negotiating leverage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the face of Mr. Trump’s demands for tariff acquiescence, 
>>>>>> Canada’s trade
>>>>>> negotiators appear to have spent months ragging the puck. They had 
>>>>>> reason to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The USMCA is a binding legal agreement, signed by Mr. Trump and 
>>>>>> ratified by
>>>>>> the U.S. Congress. Standing on it makes sense. The President 
>>>>>> appears to want
>>>>>> Canada to accept treaty-violating tariffs, and for Canada to agree 
>>>>>> to a
>>>>>> rewrite of the USMCA that would render Mr. Trump’s treaty violations
>>>>>> treaty-compliant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, Mr. Trump could also do with a political win. Or at 
>>>>>> least something
>>>>>> he can market as a win.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now, American voters have 99 problems with his 
>>>>>> administration, and a
>>>>>> trade war with Canada ain’t one. If he can turn a trade war most 
>>>>>> Americans
>>>>>> have never heard of into a claim of trade victory, it might 
>>>>>> subtract from the
>>>>>> list of reasons to vote against his party in November.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only specific detail Mr. Trump mentioned in his social media post
>>>>>> celebrating a trade deal was the alleged possible revival of “the 
>>>>>> great
>>>>>> Keystone XL Pipeline.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It’s a long-time Trump obsession. It’s also a project that Canada 
>>>>>> badly
>>>>>> wanted, but that two Democratic presidents blocked. If Mr. Trump 
>>>>>> thinks of
>>>>>> restarting Keystone XL as a win for him? Hallelujah.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But there’s something else we know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump trade policy – like Trump foreign policy – has become a 
>>>>>> dysfunctional
>>>>>> version of Deal or No Deal. It’s Deal and No Deal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No price is final, even after final sale.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adversaries and partners have learned that Mr. Trump is not bound 
>>>>>> by law,
>>>>>> treaty or friendship, and has no compunction about breaking written
>>>>>> commitments he eagerly signed not five minutes ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If an interim deal between Washington and Ottawa really is inches 
>>>>>> from the
>>>>>> goal line, that still leaves a whole trade relationship in the 
>>>>>> balance –
>>>>>> because this president’s term in office still has 29 months left 
>>>>>> on the clock.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It remains unclear how this week’s talks connect with broader 
>>>>>> negotiations
>>>>>> over the future of the USMCA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mr. Trump wants to turn what was the world’s most important free- 
>>>>>> trade deal
>>>>>> into a creature with aspects of one-way free trade. He wants us to 
>>>>>> agree to
>>>>>> give him the freedom to build tariffs walls against us, while 
>>>>>> demanding that
>>>>>> we recommit to low or no tariffs against the U.S.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That’s why this isn’t over. It won’t be so long as that man is in 
>>>>>> the White
>>>>>> House.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tony Keller
>>>>>> G&M
>>>>>>
>>>>> It should go without saying that even if Trump brought world peace and
>>>>> universal prosperity for everyone on the the planet, some people would
>>>>> still hate him. Just saying.
>>>>
>>>> Grab a pussy and be happy.
>>>
>>> If women often let you grab their pussy and they come back for more, it
>>> probably will warp your perspective a bit.
>>>
>>> Why some women will allow high status guys to do that is a different but
>>> interesting discussion.
>>
>> A guess himbo would know.
>>
> Something got snipped out:
> 
> It should go without saying that even if Trump brought world peace and 
> universal prosperity for everyone on the the planet, some people would 
> still hate him. Just saying.

It didn't get snipped out, it's still in the post right there one line 
above my response.