Re: Canada vs Trump. - And the Deal goes on...

On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 15:40:19 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 8/20/2026 1:57 PM, Dude wrote:
>> On 8/20/2026 7:30 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2026 10:10:15 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/19/2026 9:40 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2026 15:52:00 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/19/2026 6:35 AM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This isn’t over.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> U.S. President Donald Trump likes to win. He also often likes to play
>>>>>>> make-believe. He has a habit of declaring victory on social media 
>>>>>>> based on few
>>>>>>> discernible facts, or none at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When he has something to market, he markets it. When he doesn’t, 
>>>>>>> he’s liable
>>>>>>> to fake it until voters believe that he’s made it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How many times has he announced that Iran is finished? That a 
>>>>>>> peace deal is
>>>>>>> imminent? That the Strait of Hormuz is open, oil has never stopped 
>>>>>>> flowing and
>>>>>>> Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can’t count that high without an abacus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The former reality TV star also loves to engineer a cliffhanger. 
>>>>>>> Hence his
>>>>>>> decision to build a tariff time bomb – a 50-per-cent levy on $28- 
>>>>>>> billion a
>>>>>>> year of Canadian exports – and set it to go off at 12:01 a.m. on 
>>>>>>> Aug. 19.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And then, just in the nick of time, he announced that all was 
>>>>>>> saved, and he
>>>>>>> had defused the device.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Less than two hours before midnight, he wrote on Truth Social that 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> threatened tariffs were paused because, “Canada and the U.S.A., 
>>>>>>> subject to the
>>>>>>> finalization of documents, have a DEAL!”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Prime Minister Mark Carney’s presentation of the situation, 
>>>>>>> published an hour
>>>>>>> later, was rather more circumspect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> “Substantial progress has been made,” the PM wrote, “although 
>>>>>>> there is
>>>>>>> important work still to be done.” He added that the U.S. had 
>>>>>>> agreed to pause
>>>>>>> the tariffs because “this work is ongoing.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Recent days of intensive talks between Canada and the U.S., like 
>>>>>>> the months of
>>>>>>> not-much-talks that preceded them, have been marked by an extreme 
>>>>>>> level of
>>>>>>> opacity. Neither Ottawa nor Washington has itemized in public what 
>>>>>>> demands the
>>>>>>> U.S. has made of Canada, what Canada has asked of the U.S., what 
>>>>>>> has been put
>>>>>>> on the table by both sides and what horse-trading has taken place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And yet there are many things we know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We know that Mr. Trump wants most imports, including from his 
>>>>>>> partners in the
>>>>>>> United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement, to be subject to U.S. 
>>>>>>> tariffs. He’s
>>>>>>> made exceptions for products such as oil and potash – he doesn’t 
>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>> visibly raise the prices Americans pay for gasoline or food – but 
>>>>>>> he appears
>>>>>>> set on subjecting manufactured imports to tariffs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is a rather large problem for the integrated North American auto
>>>>>>> industry, and many other Canadian industries.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He also wants the rest of the world to meekly accept his tariffs 
>>>>>>> and not hit
>>>>>>> back. Mr. Trump hasn’t appreciated that Canada, unlike almost 
>>>>>>> every other
>>>>>>> country, put up its dukes and retaliated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But retaliation has given us negotiating leverage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the face of Mr. Trump’s demands for tariff acquiescence, 
>>>>>>> Canada’s trade
>>>>>>> negotiators appear to have spent months ragging the puck. They had 
>>>>>>> reason to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The USMCA is a binding legal agreement, signed by Mr. Trump and 
>>>>>>> ratified by
>>>>>>> the U.S. Congress. Standing on it makes sense. The President 
>>>>>>> appears to want
>>>>>>> Canada to accept treaty-violating tariffs, and for Canada to agree 
>>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>> rewrite of the USMCA that would render Mr. Trump’s treaty violations
>>>>>>> treaty-compliant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That said, Mr. Trump could also do with a political win. Or at 
>>>>>>> least something
>>>>>>> he can market as a win.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right now, American voters have 99 problems with his 
>>>>>>> administration, and a
>>>>>>> trade war with Canada ain’t one. If he can turn a trade war most 
>>>>>>> Americans
>>>>>>> have never heard of into a claim of trade victory, it might 
>>>>>>> subtract from the
>>>>>>> list of reasons to vote against his party in November.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only specific detail Mr. Trump mentioned in his social media post
>>>>>>> celebrating a trade deal was the alleged possible revival of “the 
>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>> Keystone XL Pipeline.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It’s a long-time Trump obsession. It’s also a project that Canada 
>>>>>>> badly
>>>>>>> wanted, but that two Democratic presidents blocked. If Mr. Trump 
>>>>>>> thinks of
>>>>>>> restarting Keystone XL as a win for him? Hallelujah.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But there’s something else we know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump trade policy – like Trump foreign policy – has become a 
>>>>>>> dysfunctional
>>>>>>> version of Deal or No Deal. It’s Deal and No Deal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No price is final, even after final sale.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adversaries and partners have learned that Mr. Trump is not bound 
>>>>>>> by law,
>>>>>>> treaty or friendship, and has no compunction about breaking written
>>>>>>> commitments he eagerly signed not five minutes ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If an interim deal between Washington and Ottawa really is inches 
>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>> goal line, that still leaves a whole trade relationship in the 
>>>>>>> balance –
>>>>>>> because this president’s term in office still has 29 months left 
>>>>>>> on the clock.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It remains unclear how this week’s talks connect with broader 
>>>>>>> negotiations
>>>>>>> over the future of the USMCA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mr. Trump wants to turn what was the world’s most important free- 
>>>>>>> trade deal
>>>>>>> into a creature with aspects of one-way free trade. He wants us to 
>>>>>>> agree to
>>>>>>> give him the freedom to build tariffs walls against us, while 
>>>>>>> demanding that
>>>>>>> we recommit to low or no tariffs against the U.S.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That’s why this isn’t over. It won’t be so long as that man is in 
>>>>>>> the White
>>>>>>> House.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tony Keller
>>>>>>> G&M
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It should go without saying that even if Trump brought world peace and
>>>>>> universal prosperity for everyone on the the planet, some people would
>>>>>> still hate him. Just saying.
>>>>>
>>>>> Grab a pussy and be happy.
>>>>
>>>> If women often let you grab their pussy and they come back for more, it
>>>> probably will warp your perspective a bit.
>>>>
>>>> Why some women will allow high status guys to do that is a different but
>>>> interesting discussion.
>>>
>>> A guess himbo would know.
>>>
>> Something got snipped out:
>> 
>> It should go without saying that even if Trump brought world peace and 
>> universal prosperity for everyone on the the planet, some people would 
>> still hate him. Just saying.
>
>It didn't get snipped out, it's still in the post right there one line 
>above my response.

Yeh, he knows that he is simply being pissy.
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