Re: last minute sabatoge of trade talkes

On 8/22/2026 10:13 AM, Tara wrote:
> On Aug 22, 2026 at 12:44:35 PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2026 16:29:35 -0000 (UTC), Tara <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2026 at 12:16:31?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2026 15:43:20 -0000 (UTC), Tara <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 22, 2026 at 11:33:12?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2026 15:09:05 -0000 (UTC), Tara <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2026 at 10:59:55?AM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2026 15:51:21 +0100, Julian <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 22/08/2026 14:39, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Tara <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For any Americans here who may be interested, we pretty well had a trade
>>>>>>>>>>> DEAL until just before the deadline last night when the Americans came in
>>>>>>>>>>> with more demands - unrealistic demands that Canada could not accept.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We are retaliating - dollar for dollar.
>>>>>>>>>>> 50% tariffs now. Both ways.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To all the Americans who voted for this President and his administration  -
>>>>>>>>>> and continue to support him - i hope there is a hell and you rot in it.
>>>>>>>>> Chill, he's nearly done and hoping for something better is
>>>>>>>>> thinking most wishful. After a few years of your neighbour
>>>>>>>>> being run by the DSA you'll probably miss the loon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeh, not everybody agrees with your politics julian, as I need to
>>>>>>>> remind wilson from time to time as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You buddy Bill Maher agrees with Julian's view. How could that be, eh?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suspect that Bill meant it as constructive criticism as most of his
>>>>>> criticisms of the dems are.  He donated a million dollars to the
>>>>>> biden/himbo election.  Still, at that time, he was getting  dems on
>>>>>> his program and asking them, why don't they get tough like the r's,
>>>>>> why is it that the dems are so roundly hated in many parts of the
>>>>>> country?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The most honest answer I heard was, if we do what they do, we become
>>>>>> like them.  I understand.  Principles matter.  What to do when so many
>>>>>> americans no longer care for principles?  When they actually cheer for
>>>>>> the asshole?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But, as I told wilson a few days ago, the continued nomination of DSA
>>>>>> candidates around the country, even in areas thought solidly
>>>>>> conservative, portends something.  It might even be that attitudes are
>>>>>> changing.  Maybe.  Watch out.
>>>>>
>>>>> When Maher supported the dems then, they were different than they are now.
>>>>> Like he says, parties change. Right now, he's just warning about what he sees,
>>>>> (the DSA) in the U.S.A. and he's scrared shitless about it. DSA - The Trump
>>>>> backlash, two sides of the same coin
>>>>> - equally crazy.
>>>>>
>>>>> check it out why don't you.
>>>>
>>>> I heard what he said.  If he is scared shitless about anything, it
>>>> would be that DSA candidates would spoil the dem's chances to getting
>>>> control of congress in nov.  There is some risk of that, I think.  So
>>>> thanks bill for doing your best to head off that possibility.  I know
>>>> your heart is in the right place.
>>>>
>>>> In the past, bill has said that comedy goes where the funny is, and
>>>> usually the r's have had most of his attention.  Lately the dems have
>>>> been deserving as well.
>>>>
>>>> I would say, that the last thing the dems need right now is to be
>>>> split ideologically.  Fercrissake.
>>>>
>>>> Specifically, in that monologue, he said, "some of you guys are
>>>> saying, bill you have become a republican.  That is not what I said. I
>>>> said my vote is in play."  So he is reminding dems that they still
>>>> need to get smart.
>>>>
>>>> Notice the different tone in this:
>>>>
>>>> "After a few years of your neighbour being run by the DSA you'll
>>>> probably miss the loon."
>>>
>>> He's not saying that it's inevitable. He's saying that if this happens, it may
>>> seem worse than what we have to deal with now.
>>> He's saying that it looks like it's going that way now. It's a speculation.
>>> And a suggestion/prediction of an outcome.
>>>>
>>>> Contempt, which is julian's stock in trade.  Always contempt if
>>>> nothing else.
>>>
>>> You read it that way
>> Yes, your phrasing is generous.
> 
> No, I'm not trying to (as if I would have that right or understanding), speak
> for him. It's just how I read his intent which is different than you're
> interpretation.
> 
> But, what the hell, nobody understands anybody anyway. And one should not
> trust that one does.
> 
>>   His is not.  So I read it that way.
> 
> carry on
> 
> I'm tired of this whole thing.
 >
Let's not take it personal.

Where's Nick?