Re: If migrants must be told rape is bad, why are we welcoming them?

Dude <[email protected]>
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On 8/23/2026 9:59 AM, Julian wrote:
> On 23/08/2026 17:28, Dude wrote:
>> On 8/23/2026 2:08 AM, Julian wrote:
>>> A new advice booklet for asylum seekers exposes Britain’s border 
>>> policy for what it is: an absurd mess
>>>
>>>
>>> Shabana Mahmood receives a huge amount of praise, particularly from 
>>> the right. And she has unquestionably done some sensible and brave 
>>> things. But I think it is now obvious that she has failed, and failed 
>>> lamentably, to stop the boats. Sure, numbers are down, but most Brits 
>>> wish for illegal asylum to stop completely: no more boats, no more 
>>> young men, no more crime —  44,000 more arrived in the year to March 
>>> 2026.
>>>
>>> Mahmood’s latest attempt to manage the scale of this influx has been 
>>> to issue guidance to migrants, living in hotels and HMOs at our 
>>> expense, about how they can assimilate into the laws of the place 
>>> into which they have just broken in. It is satire without intending 
>>> to be, Jonathan Swift without the punchline.
>>>
>>> Domestic abuse is illegal, asylum seekers told in advice on UK life
>>> The nine-page pamphlet was written in English, but we didn’t find how 
>>> many of the recipients are capable of reading it and, if not, whether 
>>> it will be translated into Somali, Pashto, Urdu, Farsi, Yoruba and 
>>> more. Worst of all, there was no clarification on what the home 
>>> secretary intends to do if these people don’t bother reading the 
>>> pamphlet or just rip it up in the face of whoever gives it to them. 
>>> After all, she cannot deport them for doing so, nor put them in 
>>> prison, since human rights laws and international treaties prevent it.
>>>
>>> This, of course, touches on a deeper truth: namely, that a great deal 
>>> of government “action” these days is designed not to cure the 
>>> underlying disease but to merely manage the symptoms. You might call 
>>> it the Kafkaesque stage in the evolution of western civilisation, a 
>>> system built on rationality, patriotism and law but now drowning in 
>>> the quicksand of moral universalism, hyper-liberalism and other mush. 
>>> It makes me weep to see how deep we are in the swamp of our own 
>>> delusions.
>>>
>>> But what is most remarkable about this pamphlet is its tone and 
>>> content, perhaps most fairly described as “Jack and Jill for 
>>> medievalists”. Don’t rape women. Don’t mutilate their genitals. Don’t 
>>> copulate with children. I’m paraphrasing but only a bit. Are 
>>> politicians like Mahmood so blind that they can’t see that if illegal 
>>> migrants need such instructions, it is rank betrayal of the British 
>>> people not to instantly deport them?
>>>
>>> You’ll note the word I used there: “betrayal”. It might seem 
>>> pejorative, maybe morally excessive. Perhaps a decade ago, I would 
>>> have agreed. Today? I am past caring. Nigel Farage is not my 
>>> favourite politician by any means, but on this topic he has been 
>>> consistently and unequivocally right. He has even dragged the 
>>> Conservative Party, which failed for years, towards the shores of 
>>> moral sanity.
>>>
>>> The solution, I believe, is tolerably clear. Change all laws and 
>>> treaties that thwart robust border control. Detain those arriving. 
>>> Sign return agreements with nations amenable to them. All the rest, 
>>> deport to Rwanda or other nations willing to do a deal. Properly 
>>> operationalised, this will work. Everything else —  smashing the 
>>> gangs, bribing the French, “one in, one out” —  is displacement 
>>> activity. The only way to smash the gangs is to smash their business 
>>> model. And having been to Calais and spoken to dozens of African men 
>>> living in a warehouse in sight of Dover, I can say frankly: nobody is 
>>> paying £5k to a smuggler to end up back in Mogadishu. But what about 
>>> the rest of the politicians, civil service and lanyard class who seem 
>>> determined to keep this evil system in place? Well, perhaps I might 
>>> offer some simple instructions about what it means to be a public 
>>> servant modelled on the government’s own pamphlet. Call it Jack and 
>>> Jill for hyper-liberals. Here goes. Your first duty is to serve your 
>>> own citizens. Not people from Eritrea, Somalia, Afghanistan or 
>>> Nigeria. The British people.
>>>
>>> Oh, and the nation you serve is not just a territory. It is a home. 
>>> Our home. It is where we live and work, and where ritual, community, 
>>> family, and other concepts we might assemble under the rubric of 
>>> “culture” come together to weave the fabric of a life. Our life. The 
>>> only life we have and which unfolds in concord with those with whom 
>>> we share it.
>>>
>>> Without borders, we are not a nation, and without a nation, we are 
>>> nothing. We are but tribes or clans, scattered here and there, 
>>> pipsqueak groups unable to operate at scale or to defend what is 
>>> precious. To open our borders in the name of “compassion” to people, 
>>> some of whom hate our values and wish to destroy them, is to place 
>>> your virtue above our safety. It is a form of self-annihilating 
>>> madness dressed up as enlightenment.
>>>
>>> Only the myopic will infer from the above that I am in favour of 
>>> slamming the doors to those in need. The question of how many of the 
>>> world’s desperate to allow in is strictly different from the 
>>> mechanism whereby we take them. If I was seeking public office I 
>>> would argue for a generous attitude, bringing in people (including, 
>>> yes, women and children) based on need and cultural fit. This is a 
>>> world away from cravenly acquiescing in the criminality of mainly 
>>> young men who jump the queue, break our laws, and who departed a safe 
>>> country to get here.
>>>
>>> Last week, two Afghan migrants were convicted for raping a woman at 
>>> knifepoint as she stargazed in a park. Is she not right to feel 
>>> betrayed? And what of the family of Rhiannon Whyte, stabbed to death 
>>> with a screwdriver by a Sudanese asylum seeker, or the family of the 
>>> 12- year-old girl from Nuneaton who was abducted and raped by an 
>>> Afghan? What of the hundreds more who have suffered at the hands of 
>>> illegal entrants, the data on whose crimes are still not collected or 
>>> published, perhaps out of fear of what they would show?
>>>
>>> What is now painfully obvious is that decades of illegal immigration 
>>> can be measured not just in ruinous fiscal cost and crime but 
>>> attrition to the concept of nation itself. A nation (perhaps this 
>>> could go in the pamphlet too) isn’t a landmass with a flag but a 
>>> covenant in which each of us accepts obligations we did not choose in 
>>> return for protections we have a duty to earn. When thousands enter 
>>> unasked, having consented to nothing, it makes a mockery of the web 
>>> of reciprocity and mutual obligation our grandparents understood 
>>> implicitly.
>>>
>>> Farage gets this to his core, and Kemi Badenoch belatedly too, which 
>>> is why they want to dismantle the entire asylum system. Mahmood, for 
>>> all her talk, has merely tinkered around the edges — not unlike her 
>>> predecessors. Even her recent idea of deporting migrants who fail the 
>>> asylum process to third-party hubs misses the point since deterrence 
>>> requires instant deportation. It is why, for me, there is only one 
>>> word to describe this multi-decade failure. And, yes, it begins with 
>>> “B”.
>>>
>>>
>>> Matthew Syed
>>  >
>> With the UK's total foreign-born population estimated at roughly 13 
>> million and historically split at approximately 47% male, there are an 
>> estimated 6.1 million male migrants living in Britain today.
>>
>> That's a lot of raging male hormones!
> 
> Especially when the women of their own culture are largely
> out of bounds further exacerbated by their older, wealthier,men perhaps 
> taking four wives.
 >
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