Re: If migrants must be told rape is bad, why are we welcoming them?
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On 8/23/2026 9:59 AM, Julian wrote: > On 23/08/2026 17:28, Dude wrote: >> On 8/23/2026 2:08 AM, Julian wrote: >>> A new advice booklet for asylum seekers exposes Britain’s border >>> policy for what it is: an absurd mess >>> >>> >>> Shabana Mahmood receives a huge amount of praise, particularly from >>> the right. And she has unquestionably done some sensible and brave >>> things. But I think it is now obvious that she has failed, and failed >>> lamentably, to stop the boats. Sure, numbers are down, but most Brits >>> wish for illegal asylum to stop completely: no more boats, no more >>> young men, no more crime — 44,000 more arrived in the year to March >>> 2026. >>> >>> Mahmood’s latest attempt to manage the scale of this influx has been >>> to issue guidance to migrants, living in hotels and HMOs at our >>> expense, about how they can assimilate into the laws of the place >>> into which they have just broken in. It is satire without intending >>> to be, Jonathan Swift without the punchline. >>> >>> Domestic abuse is illegal, asylum seekers told in advice on UK life >>> The nine-page pamphlet was written in English, but we didn’t find how >>> many of the recipients are capable of reading it and, if not, whether >>> it will be translated into Somali, Pashto, Urdu, Farsi, Yoruba and >>> more. Worst of all, there was no clarification on what the home >>> secretary intends to do if these people don’t bother reading the >>> pamphlet or just rip it up in the face of whoever gives it to them. >>> After all, she cannot deport them for doing so, nor put them in >>> prison, since human rights laws and international treaties prevent it. >>> >>> This, of course, touches on a deeper truth: namely, that a great deal >>> of government “action” these days is designed not to cure the >>> underlying disease but to merely manage the symptoms. You might call >>> it the Kafkaesque stage in the evolution of western civilisation, a >>> system built on rationality, patriotism and law but now drowning in >>> the quicksand of moral universalism, hyper-liberalism and other mush. >>> It makes me weep to see how deep we are in the swamp of our own >>> delusions. >>> >>> But what is most remarkable about this pamphlet is its tone and >>> content, perhaps most fairly described as “Jack and Jill for >>> medievalists”. Don’t rape women. Don’t mutilate their genitals. Don’t >>> copulate with children. I’m paraphrasing but only a bit. Are >>> politicians like Mahmood so blind that they can’t see that if illegal >>> migrants need such instructions, it is rank betrayal of the British >>> people not to instantly deport them? >>> >>> You’ll note the word I used there: “betrayal”. It might seem >>> pejorative, maybe morally excessive. Perhaps a decade ago, I would >>> have agreed. Today? I am past caring. Nigel Farage is not my >>> favourite politician by any means, but on this topic he has been >>> consistently and unequivocally right. He has even dragged the >>> Conservative Party, which failed for years, towards the shores of >>> moral sanity. >>> >>> The solution, I believe, is tolerably clear. Change all laws and >>> treaties that thwart robust border control. Detain those arriving. >>> Sign return agreements with nations amenable to them. All the rest, >>> deport to Rwanda or other nations willing to do a deal. Properly >>> operationalised, this will work. Everything else — smashing the >>> gangs, bribing the French, “one in, one out” — is displacement >>> activity. The only way to smash the gangs is to smash their business >>> model. And having been to Calais and spoken to dozens of African men >>> living in a warehouse in sight of Dover, I can say frankly: nobody is >>> paying £5k to a smuggler to end up back in Mogadishu. But what about >>> the rest of the politicians, civil service and lanyard class who seem >>> determined to keep this evil system in place? Well, perhaps I might >>> offer some simple instructions about what it means to be a public >>> servant modelled on the government’s own pamphlet. Call it Jack and >>> Jill for hyper-liberals. Here goes. Your first duty is to serve your >>> own citizens. Not people from Eritrea, Somalia, Afghanistan or >>> Nigeria. The British people. >>> >>> Oh, and the nation you serve is not just a territory. It is a home. >>> Our home. It is where we live and work, and where ritual, community, >>> family, and other concepts we might assemble under the rubric of >>> “culture” come together to weave the fabric of a life. Our life. The >>> only life we have and which unfolds in concord with those with whom >>> we share it. >>> >>> Without borders, we are not a nation, and without a nation, we are >>> nothing. We are but tribes or clans, scattered here and there, >>> pipsqueak groups unable to operate at scale or to defend what is >>> precious. To open our borders in the name of “compassion” to people, >>> some of whom hate our values and wish to destroy them, is to place >>> your virtue above our safety. It is a form of self-annihilating >>> madness dressed up as enlightenment. >>> >>> Only the myopic will infer from the above that I am in favour of >>> slamming the doors to those in need. The question of how many of the >>> world’s desperate to allow in is strictly different from the >>> mechanism whereby we take them. If I was seeking public office I >>> would argue for a generous attitude, bringing in people (including, >>> yes, women and children) based on need and cultural fit. This is a >>> world away from cravenly acquiescing in the criminality of mainly >>> young men who jump the queue, break our laws, and who departed a safe >>> country to get here. >>> >>> Last week, two Afghan migrants were convicted for raping a woman at >>> knifepoint as she stargazed in a park. Is she not right to feel >>> betrayed? And what of the family of Rhiannon Whyte, stabbed to death >>> with a screwdriver by a Sudanese asylum seeker, or the family of the >>> 12- year-old girl from Nuneaton who was abducted and raped by an >>> Afghan? What of the hundreds more who have suffered at the hands of >>> illegal entrants, the data on whose crimes are still not collected or >>> published, perhaps out of fear of what they would show? >>> >>> What is now painfully obvious is that decades of illegal immigration >>> can be measured not just in ruinous fiscal cost and crime but >>> attrition to the concept of nation itself. A nation (perhaps this >>> could go in the pamphlet too) isn’t a landmass with a flag but a >>> covenant in which each of us accepts obligations we did not choose in >>> return for protections we have a duty to earn. When thousands enter >>> unasked, having consented to nothing, it makes a mockery of the web >>> of reciprocity and mutual obligation our grandparents understood >>> implicitly. >>> >>> Farage gets this to his core, and Kemi Badenoch belatedly too, which >>> is why they want to dismantle the entire asylum system. Mahmood, for >>> all her talk, has merely tinkered around the edges — not unlike her >>> predecessors. Even her recent idea of deporting migrants who fail the >>> asylum process to third-party hubs misses the point since deterrence >>> requires instant deportation. It is why, for me, there is only one >>> word to describe this multi-decade failure. And, yes, it begins with >>> “B”. >>> >>> >>> Matthew Syed >> > >> With the UK's total foreign-born population estimated at roughly 13 >> million and historically split at approximately 47% male, there are an >> estimated 6.1 million male migrants living in Britain today. >> >> That's a lot of raging male hormones! > > Especially when the women of their own culture are largely > out of bounds further exacerbated by their older, wealthier,men perhaps > taking four wives. > "By Allah, I know you are but a stone, but I saw the prophet kiss you." Omar Ibn al-Khattab, the second Caliph of Islam at Mecca