Re: on why are you a bunch of racist pricks?

On Sun, 23 Aug 2026 19:00:48 +0100, Julian <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 23/08/2026 18:43, Wilson wrote:
>> On 8/23/2026 11:55 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2026 16:37:21 +0100, Julian <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Concerning the long leftist tradition of disposable peasants....
>>>>
>>>> "The deadliest man-made and politically driven famines in history were
>>>> caused by extreme state policies, forced collectivization, and
>>>> intentional food requisitioning.
>>>>
>>>> The largest include the Great Chinese Famine (1959–1961) with 15 to 55
>>>> million deaths, and the Soviet Holodomor (1932–1933) which killed 
>>>> millions.
>>>>
>>>> Major Man-Made and State-Induced Famines
>>>
>>> It is odd to me that you blame the systems and not the dictators who
>>> ran them.  But that coincidence of their pairing is often used to
>>> bolster rightie thinking.  As if the system made them tyrants instead
>>> of the tyrants ruining the system.
>> 
>> The system not only allowed, it encouraged the tyrants.
>> 
>> "If the intellectuals in the plays of Chekhov who spent all their time 
>> guessing what would happen in twenty, thirty, or forty years had been 
>> told that in forty years interrogation by torture would be practiced in 
>> Russia; that prisoners would have their skulls squeezed within iron 
>> rings; that a human being would be lowered into an acid bath; that they 
>> would be trussed up naked to be bitten by ants and bedbugs; that a 
>> ramrod heated over a primus stove would be thrust up their anal canal 
>> (the “secret brand”); that a man’s genitals would be slowly crushed 
>> beneath the toe of a jackboot; and that, in the luckiest possible 
>> circumstances, prisoners would be tortured by being kept from sleeping 
>> for a week, by thirst, and by being beaten to a bloody pulp, not one of 
>> Chekhov’s plays would have gotten to its end because all the heroes 
>> would have gone off to insane asylums.
>> 
>> Yes, not only Chekhov’s heroes, but what normal Russian at the beginning 
>> of the century, including any member of the Russian Social Democratic 
>> Workers’ Party, could have believed, would have tolerated, such a 
>> slander against the bright future? What had been acceptable under Tsar 
>> Aleksei Mikhailovich in the seventeenth century, what had already been 
>> regarded as barbarism under Peter the Great, what might have been used 
>> against ten or twenty people in all during the time of Biron in the mid- 
>> eighteenth century, what had already become totally impossible under 
>> Catherine the Great, was all being practiced during the flowering of the 
>> glorious twentieth century — in a society based on socialist principles, 
>> and at a time when airplanes were flying and the radio and talking films 
>> had already appeared — not by one scoundrel alone in one secret place 
>> only, but by tens of thousands of specially trained human beasts 
>> standing over millions of defenseless victims."
>> 
>> The Gulag Archipelago
>> 
>> https://x.com/AI_Solzhenitsyn/status/2091503798195724672
>
>There'll always be some who insist the ideology is infallible
>and it's just a simple matter of correct implementation that
>has, conveniently, finally emerged and is in their possession.

That is not what I said.  I said a rotten leader can corrupt any
system, and a good principled wise leader can make any system work.

Too bad we have such an oversupply of the first kind.
-- 
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or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
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