The Messianic Cult

On 8/21/2026 11:49 AM, dart200 wrote:
> On 8/21/26 11:39 AM, Dude wrote:
>> On 8/21/2026 11:11 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>> On 8/21/26 10:51 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 8/21/2026 12:55 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>> On 8/21/26 9:27 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/20/2026 7:59 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/20/26 12:49 PM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/20/2026 1:02 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/20/26 6:01 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/19/2026 5:26 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/19/26 2:03 PM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/19/2026 4:03 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/19/26 11:34 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/18/2026 8:54 PM, Creon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At Mon, 17 Aug 2026 21:44:50 -0400, Noah Sombrero 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Aug 2026 17:00:30 -0400, Wilson 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/17/2026 3:37 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/17/26 8:18 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A nation is more than the dirt. It's mostly the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who live there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you allow unlimited migration against the will of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the people who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are currently living in a place, that's an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infringement on their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person, their humanity. Vast numbers of new people 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who don't fit in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uhhh ... these aren't extraterrestrial aliens were 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talking about, they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are also humans. i think ur the one who's lost their 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> humanity u fucking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> racist tard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lives and ways of the current resident could (and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely would)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> destroy their nation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the sf bay area where i'm from is 35% white, 30% 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asian, 25% latino, 5%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> black, and 5% other. i can assure you that we haven't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "lost" our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> humanity u racist tard. in fact one of these reasons i 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> move away from the bay is the multicultural aspect and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fact people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here aren't generally racist pricks like urself...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But collectivist ideology places the immigrant above 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the residents who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are already there, because "muh feeeelz!".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> violating basic freedom of movement by chaining 7/8ths 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people on this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planet to their nation states is not just a matter of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "muh feeeelz" you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inhumane prick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They just don't care about the people and the lives 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and that would be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> destroyed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lol, u really don't think capitalism is that powerful 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of economic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system, eh? ur whole narrative of "general progress" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is that much of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fragile pile of godshit eh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not racist to want to preserve your heritage and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apply if all of the people were white or any other race.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think would happen if several million 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russians fleeing Putin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to move to one of the smaller islands in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Philippines?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fallacy alert:  ad absurdum.  You really gotta cut that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out, wilson.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Um, don't look now -- but logical arguments aren't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fallacies simply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there are colloquial Latin names for them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An "ad absurdum" argument is perfectly valid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I should have used the Chinese as an example 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of Russians as that would be more likely in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Philippines. That potential is a solid one and not absurd 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/philippines- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orders- foreign- workers-offshore-gaming-hubs-leave-2- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> months-2024-07-24/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Philippine immigration chief Norman Tansingco said in a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statement foreign workers had 59 days to leave the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country. Around 20,000 people are expected to be affected 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the order, most of them Chinese citizens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Workers who stay in the country beyond the two-month 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> period will be deported, he added."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3364178/ 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beijing- and- manila-clash-over-arrests-illegal-workers- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tensions- worsen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "In May, Teodoro directed armed forces to detain 70 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allegedly undocumented Chinese nationals at the Sanjia 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steel Corporation plant, prompting formal protests from 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beijing and consular visits."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like the Philippine government has a strict 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policy around immigration and has no problem deporting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who don't follow their rules.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> err some filipino official saying something and it actually 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> happening are too very different things wilson. heck prolly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> did actually deport some, but to the extent that this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually stopped anything is a totally different matter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> u have to understand the philippines is a archipelago not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the far from other mainlands, and they don't have that much 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of a navy to speak of. they just don't have the resources 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to meaningfully protect their borders all that well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nvm that much of the commercial oligarchy is already 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dominated by filipino-chinese (chinoy) families, which ofc 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> u'll never find really detailed in the news cause journos 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are basically all brain dead everywhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they couldn't get rid of serious chinese influence even if 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they wanted to, dicking about poor people with coercive 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> measures is just propaganda for sub-critical sheeple like you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You aren't even addressing the thing: small countries want 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to protect their people from being overwhelmed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and you aren't even addressing the bigger thing:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> you don't believe market economics is fair, apparently
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What do you mean by "fair".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you tell me bro... ur the one that supports coercively chaining 
>>>>>>>>> 7/8ths of the planet to their respective nation states, because 
>>>>>>>>> opening it up and allowing the market to work freely across 
>>>>>>>>> borders is "unfair" to you
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apparently you're not smart enough to understand, as I keep 
>>>>>>>> telling you what I think and you keep repeating your tired 
>>>>>>>> talking points.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and i'm going to keep repeating it cause i'm tired of u not 
>>>>>>> actually accepting in the fairness of open free markets
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You need to convince the people not me.
>>>>>
>>>>> ur a person last time i checked
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You have not convinced me, or /anyone/ here.
>>>>
>>>
>>> i don't expect to. i expect to you use an a demonstration for just 
>>> how unworthy of god's kingdom most humans are
>>>
>> Your mileage may vary.
>>
>> The Messianic movement blends elements of Jewish tradition with the 
>> belief that Jesus (Yeshua) is the Messiah.
>>
>> alt.messianic
> 
> tell me more about how much a giant sack of garbage you are dud
> 
See: alt.messianic

This gives us some insight as to your God's Kingdom Come:

"The term "messianic cult" in the U.S. generally refers to fringe 
religious movements centered on a leader claiming divine messianic 
status or an extreme end-times mandate."