Re: on enlightenment

On Aug 24, 2026 at 2:35:40 PM EDT, "dart200"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On 8/24/26 9:54 AM, Tara wrote:
>> On Aug 24, 2026 at 5:04:27 AM EDT, "dart200"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8/23/26 7:31 PM, Creon wrote:
>>>> At Fri, 21 Aug 2026 13:49:55 -0700, dart200
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/21/26 11:50 AM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/18/2026 2:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/18/26 2:01 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/18/2026 1:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8/18/26 9:26 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/17/2026 11:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/17/26 5:25 PM, Doc Hammerslack wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> At Mon, 17 Aug 2026 16:32:05 -0700, Dude <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/17/2026 12:39 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/17/26 10:08 AM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/16/2026 7:41 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/16/26 7:13 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/16/2026 4:30 PM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/16/2026 5:12 PM, Creon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At Sun, 16 Aug 2026 15:27:48 -0400, Wilson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/16/2026 2:29 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2026 14:06:50 -0400, Wilson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/15/2026 6:24 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 14:46:19 -0400, Wilson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You don't ever acknowledge your beliefs as being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideological.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You think you're dealing in the realm of truthiness
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> while I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just repeating propaganda. And tbh, a lot of times I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're just repeating what your media told you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tickle your preset biases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So it goes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What it comes down to is that I say, when you refusal to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Know that the 2020 election was not stolen from himbo,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attack on the attempt to count electoral ballots was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in fact an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attack and not something else, and that election fraud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen once in a while but it is not a problem in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us. That
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a sample.  The list is long, including attempts to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prosecute
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> himbo's critics and pardon criminals who do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criticize him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I say that refusal to know is self evident bull shit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not put me on throne of belief.  But it sure does sink
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the depths of delusion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're so high on your own beliefs you can't even see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're standing on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you have nothing to say about my list above.  Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't we have been over this stuff so many times.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes indeed, why bother. You're not an honest debater and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you see me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm still wondering if you trust the news source from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "learned" that California didn't allow controlled burns.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In context some areas do restrict controlled burns. I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remember where I saw it and maybe I was the one who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conflated that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> policy with the whole state.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's just one item that you were corrected on.  I wonder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many other "facts" of that provenence you hold in your memory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> banks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At least I admit it when I'm proven wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's not forget we're dialoging with a guy who believes the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jews
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attacked the WTC on 9/11 and brought down the WTC-7 with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explosives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planted on the inside.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let's not forget 7/8ths of the planet is chained to their nation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> states because psychos like you want to live in an fake
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illusion of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general prosperity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's not forget that 99.9% of all people on earth live in nation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> states. Only a very tiny minority are stateless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is this supposed to justify violating basic freedom of movement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7/8ths people on the planet???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't have open borders in a welfare state.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> What weenerbrane is describing would be some kind of "even newer
>>>>>>>>>>>> world order".
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Name one country that doesn't check your passport when you cross
>>>>>>>>>>>> a border.  (They might allow that in the EU, but not even sure
>>>>>>>>>>>> about that.)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> yes were so normalized to shitting all over basic freedom of
>>>>>>>>>>> movement, to point where 7/8 people on this planet are chained to
>>>>>>>>>>> their nation state without any choice in the matter, we should
>>>>>>>>>>> just keep doing it...
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> just like we should have just kept around slavery, eh???
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> it's funny u think this shitshow of a subethical species even
>>>>>>>>>>> deserves sustainability. but the jokes truly on me cause most of u
>>>>>>>>>>> chucklefucks have ur head shoved so far up ur asshole u can't even
>>>>>>>>>>> admit there's a problem
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> cause it would completely break the fragile ideology u preach
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> #god
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> cons and not wanting to study things cause they can't handle the
>>>>>>>>>>> truth: name a more iconic duo
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Why do you want to destroy the country you're living in?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> this nation is literally just a bunch of fucking immigrants u racist
>>>>>>>>> tard. it doesn't even function like a single coherent nation, it
>>>>>>>>> functions more like 12 separate identities
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We look forward to your questions concerning Albert Einstein's theory
>>>>>>>> of mass and the paradox of time warping. Go!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> again, dud you keep bleating on about enlightenment, but u display
>>>>>>> nothing of the sort in the slightest
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You came here. For what? To bleat about enlightenment?
>>>>> 
>>>>> YES WHERE IS THAT ENLIGHTENMENT YOU TARD???
>>>> 
>> 
>> Creon tells how it is:
>>>> If you sit, after a while, your practice will deepen.
>>>> 
>>>> Once you've experienced kensho, your perspective will
>>>> realign itself.
>> 
>> 
>> So, Creon, whose perspective...yours? Or maybe something you've been told it
>> (kensho) should look like. . And you bought it. ;) - Cali flake
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> nignog there ain't a whole lot of fucking "hUmIlItY" actually present in
>>> ye old group of senile cons,
>> 
>> I'f you're looking for humility Nick, this is not the place to find it. They
>> don't believe in it.
> 
> i'm not looking for "humility" or rather politeness like creon seems to
> be, i'm looking for honesty and truth...

Then why did you say that there 'ain't a whole lot of fucking "hUmIlItY" here.

> 
> but i haven't found a whole lot that here either,

what you get here is other people's truth.  If they agree with your 'truth'
then you would say they are honest and true.

> 
> cause the truth is that no matter how polite you make your life, it's
> still founded upon vast systems of unethical coercion that is chaining
> 7.6 billion people to their places of birth without their consent,
> 
>> and we will not escape that sin thru polite words on a screen

and we will not escape that sin thru calling people names and dissing them on
a screen.  
>> 
>> #god
> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> and this is entirely independent on the amount of enlightenment present,
>>> 
>>>> which is exactly and precisely none thus far
>> 
>> Does anyone really know what so called 'enlightenment' is. From what I can
>> ken, it's something about a certain reality that you 'realize'. Something
>> specific that you've been told that you should realize (when you 'become'
>> enlightened, that is). And, of course, happiness and fullfillment is now
>> yours. And you get to tell other people what to do.
> 
> i view enlightenment as a collective phenomena not individual, and i'm
> pretty sure most religious text view it as such as well...
> 
> maybe when we put down our foolish currency based ethics/economics and
> commit to building the kingdom of heaven or nivana or whatever the heck
> u want to call it, so to speak,
> 
> maybe once we'll have built that we'll have achieved the so called
> enlightenment spoken of by the past.
> 
>> 
>> Why is it that you can get 'enlightened' if you're a Christian, (St Paul
>> etc), a Buddhist, or in any other belief system. The problem is that what you
>> 'realize' as a so called, enlightened being is different from what someone
>> else has been told they should realize according to the doctrine they've
>> bought in to and embraced.
>> 
>> That's ok, you know..different strokes, eh.
>> 
>> But, I'm not now or ever will be enlightened, and blasphemer that I am, I
>> really think the whole enlightenment thing is a made up crock.
>> 
>> However, on second thought, who are they to say that I'm not enlightened. Or
>> that I am. How would they know one way or the other. Oh yeah, I forgot, if I
>> believe what they do, right?
>> 
>> I am enlightened and so are you. But not in accord with the Buddhist idea of
>> what it is - and not conditional or in accord with any other belief system.
>> 
>> I won't be replying if you (Nick) or anyone else decides to answer this post.
>> Be/Stay well.
> 
> yelp u already did so 🤷
> 
>> 
>>>> 
>>>> #god
>> 
>> Yeah!