Re: Where the fuck is the NRA?

Webbster <[email protected]> Mon, 26 Jan 2026 05:01:23 -0000 (UTC)
Newsgroups alt.business,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.org.fbi,or.politics,talk.politics.guns
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!Jones <[email protected]> wrote in news:df1dnk55tvk7vbt90gltncioveo9fhgl5r@
4ax.com:

>>If he had brandshed the gun, the videos would have recorded it. We have 
>>some very good video that shows definitivly that he did not brandish a 
>>gun.
>>
>>OTOH, as one podcaster pointed out, the ICE picture of the gun (why was 
>>the barrel bent?) was taken on the seat of a vehicle, while we do have 
>>some evidence that a gun was taken from the pile-on, we have no 
evidence 
>>that the one in the picture was the one taken from the pile-on nor do 
we 
>>have evidence that it was Pretti's gun.
> 
> It is highly likely so that one or more of the cameras would have
> recorded the brandishment of a gun had Pretti done such a thing, but
> the null hypothesis is that he did *not*.  That holds without support
> unless shown to be false.
> 
> Where it gets tricky is that the burden reverses when the agent is
> charged with a crime.  Now, the assumption is that the agent could not
> have feared for his life, and I can't say that's so.
> 
> What disturbs me is that we tend to jump to easy interpretations in a
> very complicated environment.  Best, IMHO, to get ICE out of there.
> It's obviously not going to have a happy ending!
> 
One video shows that the ICE agent behind Pretti pulled his gun 
immediately after Pretti's gun was taken from it's holster.  The agent 
had full view of Pretti being disarmed.

At no point, in any of the videos, did Pretti reach for his gun.


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