Re: Where the fuck is the NRA?

Webbster <[email protected]> Mon, 26 Jan 2026 05:14:07 -0000 (UTC)
Newsgroups alt.business,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.org.fbi,or.politics,talk.politics.guns
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Webbster <[email protected]> wrote in news:10l6sf2$281ot$2
@dont-email.me:

> !Jones <[email protected]> wrote in news:df1dnk55tvk7vbt90gltncioveo9fhgl5r@
> 4ax.com:
> 
>>>If he had brandshed the gun, the videos would have recorded it. We 
have 
>>>some very good video that shows definitivly that he did not brandish a 
>>>gun.
>>>
>>>OTOH, as one podcaster pointed out, the ICE picture of the gun (why 
was 
>>>the barrel bent?) was taken on the seat of a vehicle, while we do have 
>>>some evidence that a gun was taken from the pile-on, we have no 
> evidence 
>>>that the one in the picture was the one taken from the pile-on nor do 
> we 
>>>have evidence that it was Pretti's gun.
>> 
>> It is highly likely so that one or more of the cameras would have
>> recorded the brandishment of a gun had Pretti done such a thing, but
>> the null hypothesis is that he did *not*.  That holds without support
>> unless shown to be false.
>> 
>> Where it gets tricky is that the burden reverses when the agent is
>> charged with a crime.  Now, the assumption is that the agent could not
>> have feared for his life, and I can't say that's so.
>> 
>> What disturbs me is that we tend to jump to easy interpretations in a
>> very complicated environment.  Best, IMHO, to get ICE out of there.
>> It's obviously not going to have a happy ending!
>> 
> One video shows that the ICE agent behind Pretti pulled his gun 
> immediately after Pretti's gun was taken from it's holster.  The agent 
> had full view of Pretti being disarmed.
> 
> At no point, in any of the videos, did Pretti reach for his gun.
> 
> 
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Walz: "To Americans who are watching this, I've got a question for you: 
What side do you want to be on? The side of an all powerful federal govt 
that can kill, injury, menace, & kidnap its citizens off the streets? Or 
on the side of a nurse at the VA hospital who died bearing witness to 
such govt?"
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