Re: What OTP settings do you use to log a 3rd-party Android MUA into Google email?

Andy Burnelli <[email protected]> Mon, 27 Jun 2022 20:33:25 +0100
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android,alt.internet.wireless,alt.cellular.gsm
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Andy Burns wrote:

>> Google explicitly says app passwords are disappearing.
> 
> No, they say "insecure apps" are disappearing, "app passwords" are staying.
> 
> Notice here, the red warning about less secure apps, yet they still link to app 
> passwords
> 
> <https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en>
> 
> Or here, where they describe how to enable 2SV if you want to create an app 
> password, with not a mention that they might be going away anytime soon
> 
> <https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833?hl=en>
> 
> I have no idea how many Google arses you have to lick to become a Diamond or 
> Platinum Product Expert, but maybe you'll believe them if you don't believe me?
> 
> <https://support.google.com/accounts/thread/161738917?hl=en>

The problem I have with those apps is you have to have _already_ set up
your email account as 2FA/2SV/MSA/MSV in order to get them to do anything: 
 <https://i.postimg.cc/VN5y8vt9/otp01.jpg> Flocke free andOTP settings
 <https://i.postimg.cc/rFC2Gvc4/otp02.jpg> Red Hat freeOTP settings

The problem I have with setting up 2FA/2SV/MSA/MSV is that I've never set
it up and yet I'm trying to understand how it works _before_ I set it up.

One "issue" I have (mostly it's a fear) is that I won't be able to access
email via Thunderbird/OAUth2 once I set up 2FA/2SV/MSA/MSV since you set it
up by account, and not by MUA, right?

So, if I do set up 2FA/2SV/MSA/MSV for my Google mail account, how does
that Google mail account know to use OAuth2 for Windows Thunderbird but,
oh, say, app passwords for K9 mail?
-- 
BTW, I thank you for suggesting I use Google Voice on the iPad as my
verification number since on the iPad, Google does _not_ create an account
(whereas if you log into Google Voice on Android, Google _does_ create an
account on Android).