Re: France Wants to Sue Apple for Planned Obsolescence

Hergen Lehmann <[email protected]> Thu, 3 Aug 2023 20:07:04 +0200
Newsgroups comp.misc,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android,alt.cellular.nokia
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Am 02.08.23 um 21:11 schrieb nospam:
> In article <[email protected]>, Otto J. Makela
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> As to "the consumer has rejected it", phones with integrated computers
>>> of some sort existed before the iPhone and were largely rejected by
>>> consumers are large.
>>
>> Being from Finland, I'd like to point out that this view is a bit
>> US-centric.
> 
> it is not.

It is.


>> Nokia had their Symbian smartphones (first models came out
>> in 2001), they just didn't in the end succeed against Apple and Google.
> 
> that's because they weren't very good. in other words, consumers
> rejected it.

They were actually quite reasonable for was possible around the turn of 
the millennium. And no, consumers did NOT reject them. Some early Nokia 
computer/phone combos were actually quite popular here in Europe, for 
example, all technology-affine management guys used to have a Nokia 
Communicator at some point.

In the end, it was three factors which killed Nokia:

1. They were too early. The technology was still too expensive for the 
average customer and the mobile networks not ready for large-scale data 
usage. Syncing appointments and receiving/sending text-only eMail were 
basically the only reasonable over-the-air functionality. Not because 
the devices didn't provide a browser and installable Apps (they did, 
starting with Symbian), but because data transmission was just WAY too 
slow and expensive.

2. Nokia had far less marketing power than Apple and Google (especially 
outside of europe) and used it poorly. When Apple started aggressively 
marketing the iPhone, Nokia just reclined on their leading position in 
the European market.

3. The phone branch of Nokia was ultimately bought by Microsoft, which 
immediate stopped all improvement on Symbian in favor of the Mega-Flop 
called Windows Mobile.