Re: Blemished Offerings: Why Dying in Your Sins Won't Clear the Ledger
Mitchell Holman <[email protected]>
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Christ Rose <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]: > ======================================== > Mon, 31 Aug 2026 02:47:06 +0000, > <[email protected]> > Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote: > ======================================== > >> Christ Rose <[email protected]> wrote in >> news:8d7ef592-8f7e-4731- [email protected]: >> >>> ======================================== >>> Sun, 30 Aug 2026 18:45:58 +0000, >>> <[email protected]> >>> Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote: >>> ======================================== >>> >>>> Christ Rose <[email protected]> wrote in >>>> news:[email protected]: >>>> >>>> >>>>> First Proposition: Human physical death does not satisfy divine >>>>> justice, cancel guilt, or ransom anyone from condemnation; rather, >>>>> it delivers the sinner directly to divine judgment. >>>> >>>> >>>> What is "divine justice?" >>> >>> >>> Divine justice is >>> >>> • God meeting His own righteous demands against our sin >>> through >>> Christ's death and resurrection (Romans 3:23-26). >>> >> >> All of God's demands are righteous? >> >> According to whom? > > > > God, as revealed in His word (Romans 7:12; Psalm 19:7-9; Psalm > 119:137-138; Psalm 119:144; Psalm 119:172; Deuteronomy 4:8; Nehemiah > 9:13; Ezekiel 20:11; 1 John 5:3; Micah 6:8). > > That would also mean, not you (Job 40:2; Job 40:8; Isaiah 29:16; > Isaiah 45:9-10; Romans 9:20-21; Romans 11:33-35; 1 Corinthians 2:16; > Proverbs 14:12; Proverbs 21:2; Jeremiah 10:23). > God says God is always righteous. No matter how many innocent people he kills. > >>> • God sending those who reject this payment for their sin >>> to >> the >>> lake of fire, since there's no other sinless substitute who >>> can pay the debt they owe to God for their sin. >> >> All debts are a contractual obligation. >> >> When did everyone contrctully enter >> into this obligation? > > > When they were conceived in iniquity (Psalm 51:5), when they came out > of the loins of a fallen man (Romans 5:12), when they went astray from > the womb (Psalm 58:3), when they rejected the knowledge of God in > creation (Romans 1:19-21), when they practiced the things they condemn > others for (Romans 2:1), when they sinned and fell short of His glory > (Romans 3:23). > Nope. No one is legally liable for a debt they did not agree to. >>>>> God's Rejection of Any Blemished or Defiled Offering >>>>> >>>>> (1) "You shall not offer anything that has a blemish, for it will >>>>> not be acceptable for you." (Leviticus 22:20, ESV) >>>>> >>>>> God explicitly forbids and rejects any sacrifice that possesses a >>>>> blemish or defect. >>>> >>>> >>>> Have all your sacrifices to God been "unblemished"? >>>> >>>> And how can you be sure? >>> >>> >>> No. That's the point. Men can't atone for their sins, because they >> can't >>> offer a sinless, infinite sacrifice to God. So what is the point of God demanding sacrifices? You just said they don't accomplish anything. >> >> >> So God demands a sacrifice that is never sufficient. >> >> Whose fault is that. > > > He provided a sacrifice which is sufficient in Christ (Hebrews > 10:10-14). It's man's fault if he rejects that (John 3:18-19). So everyone who never heard of Jesus is still condemned for not worshipping him? >>> This is why one must rely on >>> Christ's atonement. >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>> In order for any sacrifice to be accepted before God, it must be >>>>> entirely perfect and without blemish. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Why does any god need a "sacrifice"? >>> >>> >>> To meet God's just demands against their sin. Christ is the only one >> who >>> qualifies. >> >> >> How does one avoid this sin? > > > Since Christ provided an atonement for our sins which meets God's > righteous demands (Romans 3:24-26), one avoids this sin by relying on > Christ's death and resurrection alone to make them right with God > (John 3:18; Romans 4:24-25). So this "sin" is unavoidable. No wonder Christianity is disappearing.....