Re: Blemished Offerings: Why Dying in Your Sins Won't Clear the Ledger

Mitchell Holman <[email protected]>
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Christ Rose <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]: 

> ========================================
> Mon, 31 Aug 2026 02:47:06 +0000,
>   <[email protected]>
>   Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
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> 
>> Christ Rose <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:8d7ef592-8f7e-4731- [email protected]:
>> 
>>> ========================================
>>> Sun, 30 Aug 2026 18:45:58 +0000,
>>>    <[email protected]>
>>>    Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> ========================================
>>>
>>>> Christ Rose <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> First Proposition: Human physical death does not satisfy divine
>>>>> justice, cancel guilt, or ransom anyone from condemnation; rather,
>>>>> it delivers the sinner directly to divine judgment.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        What is "divine justice?"
>>>
>>>
>>> Divine justice is
>>>
>>>        • God meeting His own righteous demands against our sin
>>>        through 
>>>          Christ's death and resurrection (Romans 3:23-26).
>>>
>> 
>>      All of God's demands are righteous?
>> 
>>      According to whom?
> 
> 
> 
> God, as revealed in His word (Romans 7:12; Psalm 19:7-9; Psalm 
> 119:137-138; Psalm 119:144; Psalm 119:172; Deuteronomy 4:8; Nehemiah 
> 9:13; Ezekiel 20:11; 1 John 5:3; Micah 6:8).
> 
> That would also mean, not you (Job 40:2; Job 40:8; Isaiah 29:16;
> Isaiah 45:9-10; Romans 9:20-21; Romans 11:33-35; 1 Corinthians 2:16;
> Proverbs 14:12; Proverbs 21:2; Jeremiah 10:23).
> 


    God says God is always righteous. 

    No matter how many innocent people he kills.  



> 
>>>        • God sending those who reject this payment for their sin
>>>        to 
>> the
>>>          lake of fire, since there's no other sinless substitute who
>>>          can pay the debt they owe to God for their sin.
>> 
>>       All debts are a contractual obligation.
>> 
>>       When did everyone contrctully enter
>> into this obligation?
> 
> 
> When they were conceived in iniquity (Psalm 51:5), when they came out
> of the loins of a fallen man (Romans 5:12), when they went astray from
> the womb (Psalm 58:3), when they rejected the knowledge of God in
> creation (Romans 1:19-21), when they practiced the things they condemn
> others for (Romans 2:1), when they sinned and fell short of His glory
> (Romans 3:23). 
> 


        Nope. No one is legally liable
for a debt they did not agree to. 



>>>>> God's Rejection of Any Blemished or Defiled Offering
>>>>>
>>>>> (1) "You shall not offer anything that has a blemish, for it will
>>>>> not be acceptable for you." (Leviticus 22:20, ESV)
>>>>>
>>>>> God explicitly forbids and rejects any sacrifice that possesses a
>>>>> blemish or defect.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        Have all your sacrifices to God been "unblemished"?
>>>>    
>>>>        And how can you be sure?
>>>
>>>
>>> No. That's the point. Men can't atone for their sins, because they
>> can't
>>> offer a sinless, infinite sacrifice to God.


          So what is the point of God demanding
sacrifices? You just said they don't accomplish
anything.      


>> 
>> 
>>       So God demands a sacrifice that is never sufficient.
>> 
>>       Whose fault is that.
> 
> 
> He provided a sacrifice which is sufficient in Christ (Hebrews 
> 10:10-14). It's man's fault if he rejects that (John 3:18-19).


        So everyone who never heard of Jesus 
is still condemned for not worshipping him?  


 
>>> This is why one must rely on
>>> Christ's atonement.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In order for any sacrifice to be accepted before God, it must be
>>>>> entirely perfect and without blemish.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        Why does any god need a "sacrifice"?
>>>
>>>
>>> To meet God's just demands against their sin. Christ is the only one
>> who
>>> qualifies.
>> 
>>    
>>        How does one avoid this sin?
> 
> 
> Since Christ provided an atonement for our sins which meets God's 
> righteous demands (Romans 3:24-26), one avoids this sin by relying on 
> Christ's death and resurrection alone to make them right with God
> (John 3:18; Romans 4:24-25).


         So this "sin" is unavoidable. 

         No wonder Christianity is disappearing.....
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