Re: Worst Translation of the Bible? (DeepSeek)

Christ Rose <[email protected]> wrote in news:e99a6f90-8ca6-4921-
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> Fri, 04 Sep 2026 02:14:54 +0000,
>   <[email protected]>
>   Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> Well, congratulations. That means you have a reliable testimony about
>>> someone who did not provide an atonement for your sins, and who did 
not
>>> rise from the dead. Such a person saves no one.
>> 
>>       No one has "risen from the dead"
>> That is just your mythology.
> 
> 
> So you admit your beliefs don't even offer any claim or proof that your 
> leader rose from the dead, that he atoned for your sins, or that he can 
> raise anyone else from the dead.
> 

      That is your mythology, as I said. 

      And not even an original mythology. 
Osiris (Egyptian), Ishtar (Sumerian/Babylonian),
Attis (Phrygian), Dionysus (Greek) all had 
"resurrections". 




> Meanwhile,
> 
>       • People do not allow themselves to be tortured to death for
>         something which they believe to be a lie. Many of the Apostles
>         accepted torture and death rather than renounce their claim
>         Christ rose from the dead.
> 
>       • The record shows there were over 500 witnesses: 


       Not to mention the many "witnesses" to dead
Jews rising out of their graves and walking the 
streets of Jerusalem. It's in the Gospels so it 
really happened, right?
(Matthew 27:51)




“For I
>         delivered to you as of first importance what I also received:
>         that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the
>         Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third
>         day in accordance with the Scriptures, and that he appeared to
>         Cephas, then to the twelve. Then he appeared to more than five
>         hundred brothers at one time, most of whom are still alive,
>         though some have fallen asleep.” (1 Corinthians 15:3–6, 
ESV)
> 
>         If that had been a lie at the time it was written, they would
>         have immediately been called out and shown to be false. They
>         were not.
> 
>       • Roman soldiers claimed the disciples stole the body while 
they
>         were asleep. Except the penalty for falling asleep would have
>         been death, if their claim were true.
> 
>       • Changed lives also validate the resurrection. The Radical
>         Transformation of the Disciples At the time of the arrest and
>         crucifixion, the disciples fled in fear, abandoned Him, and
>         remained locked away behind closed doors in terror of the
>         authorities (Matthew 26:56; John 20:19). Within weeks, these
>         same men publicly proclaimed His resurrection in the very city
>         where He was condemned and executed, defying the threats,
>         beatings, and imprisonment imposed by the Sanhedrin (Acts
>         4:18-20; Acts 5:29-32). Men do not willingly suffer lifelong
>         persecution, torture, and martyrdom for what they know to be a
>         deliberate fabrication.
> 
>       • The Conversion of Key Skeptics: James, the brother of Jesus,
>         along with His other earthly brothers, did not believe in Him
>         during His earthly ministry (John 7:5; Mark 3:21). Following a
>         personal resurrection appearance (1 Corinthians 15:7), James
>         became a pillar and leader of the church in Jerusalem
>         (Galatians 2:9) and wrote the epistle bearing his name. Saul of
>         Tarsus was an aggressive enemy and persecutor of the church,
>         breathing threats and slaughter against believers (Acts 9:1-2).
>         An encounter with the risen Lord on the Damascus road turned
>         this chief adversary into the apostle to the Gentiles, willing
>         to endure total loss and death for Christ (Acts 9:3-20;
>         Philippians 3:7-11).
> 
>       • The Shift in Sabbath Worship: For over a millennium, the 
Jewish
>         people rigidly observed the seventh day of the week (Saturday)
>         as the Sabbath under the Mosaic Law. Immediately following the
>         resurrection, thousands of Jewish believers transferred their
>         primary day of assembly, breaking of bread, and corporate
>         worship to the first day of the week (Sunday), specifically
>         commemorating the day on which the Lord rose from the dead
>         (Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2; Revelation 1:10).
>