Re: DID YOU KNOW God is ONLY Saving Outside the Churches?
Noah Wang <[email protected]> Sun, 24 May 2026 22:46:36 -0700
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On 4/27/2026 5:32 AM, Christ Rose wrote: > ======================================== > Mon, 27 Apr 2026 00:14:10 -0500, > <[email protected]> > Noah Wang <[email protected]> wrote: > ======================================== > >> https://zionintravail.com/ >> >> 2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJV: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, >> and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for >> instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, >> thoroughly furnished unto all good works. >> >> Daniel 12:9-10 KJV: And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are >> closed up and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall be purified, >> and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none >> of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. >> >> Ecclesiastes 8:5 KJV: Whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil >> thing: and a wise man's heart discerneth both time and judgment. >> >> Proverbs 12:15 KJV: The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he >> that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise. >> >> Proverbs 11:4 KJV: Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the >> multitude of counsellors there is safety. >> >> Psalm 119:24 KJV: Thy testimonies also are my delight and my counsellors. >> >> Revelation 18:2 KJV: And he cried mightily with a strong voice, >> saying, Babylon [persecuted church] the great is fallen, is fallen, >> and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul >> spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. >> >> Revelation 18:4 KJV: And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, >> Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and >> that ye receive not of her plagues. >> >> 1 Peter 4:17 KJV: >> For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and >> if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not >> the gospel of God? >> >> 2 Thessalonians 2:11,12 KJV: And for this cause God shall send them >> strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:That they all might be >> damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. >> >> Isaiah 28:7 KJV: But they also have erred through wine, and through >> strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred >> through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of >> the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in >> judgment. >> >> Thessalonians 2:1-3 KJV: >> Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, >> except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be >> revealed, the son of perdition; >> Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or >> that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, >> shewing himself that he is God. >> >> 2 Corinthians 11:15 KJV: Therefore it is no great thing if his >> ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose >> end shall be according to their works. >> >> Jeremiah 7:4 KJV: 4 Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple >> [church/congregation] of the Lord, The temple of the Lord, The temple >> of the Lord, are these. >> >> 1 Thessalonians 2:14 KJV: >> For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in >> Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of >> your own countrymen. >> >> Matthew 24:15-16 KJV: >> When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of >> by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let >> him understand): Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the >> mountains: >> >> Matthew 24:14 KJV: >> And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for >> a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. >> > > These verses do not seem to match your proposition. > Secondly, 1st Corinthians 15:1-4 show that all true believers are in the > process of being saved by the gospel. It cannot accurately be said that > God is only saving people outside the church. God is only saving people > who are the church. > Thirdly, only people who are outside the church are being added to the > church. One would expect that the only new people who are coming to > salvation are the ones who are not yet saved, and who are therefore > outside the church. > Fourthly, Harold Camping was a false prophet. He repeatedly predicted > the wrong date for the Lord's return. The Bible says that when a > prophet's claims don't come true, you shall not fear the prophet, he is > not from God. > Fifthly, Harold Camping had a vested interest in drawing people to the > family radio ministry. By telling people to come out of the church, he > was setting himself up as the sole source of Truth for everyone. > > Thus, your proposition makes no sense to me, and the verses you cite to > support it do not seem to mean what you try to imply. It's a marketing > ploy by Harold Camping, the false prophet, designed to lure people out > of the church under his sole control. > Acts 17:11 KJV: These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.