Re: DID YOU KNOW God is ONLY Saving Outside the Churches?

Noah Wang <[email protected]> Sun, 24 May 2026 22:46:36 -0700
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On 4/27/2026 5:32 AM, Christ Rose wrote:
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> Mon, 27 Apr 2026 00:14:10 -0500,
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> Noah Wang <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> https://zionintravail.com/
>>
>> 2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJV: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, 
>> and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for 
>> instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, 
>> thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
>>
>> Daniel 12:9-10 KJV: And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are 
>> closed up and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall be purified, 
>> and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none 
>> of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
>>
>> Ecclesiastes 8:5 KJV: Whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil 
>> thing: and a wise man's heart discerneth both time and judgment.
>>
>> Proverbs 12:15 KJV: The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he 
>> that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.
>>
>> Proverbs 11:4 KJV: Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the 
>> multitude of counsellors there is safety.
>>
>> Psalm 119:24 KJV: Thy testimonies also are my delight and my counsellors.
>>
>> Revelation 18:2 KJV: And he cried mightily with a strong voice, 
>> saying, Babylon [persecuted church] the great is fallen, is fallen, 
>> and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul 
>> spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
>>
>> Revelation 18:4 KJV: And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, 
>> Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and 
>> that ye receive not of her plagues.
>>
>> 1 Peter 4:17 KJV:
>> For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and 
>> if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not 
>> the gospel of God?
>>
>> 2 Thessalonians 2:11,12 KJV: And for this cause God shall send them 
>> strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:That they all might be 
>> damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
>>
>> Isaiah 28:7 KJV: But they also have erred through wine, and through 
>> strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred 
>> through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of 
>> the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in 
>> judgment.
>>
>> Thessalonians 2:1-3 KJV:
>> Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, 
>> except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be 
>> revealed, the son of perdition;
>> Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or 
>> that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, 
>> shewing himself that he is God.
>>
>> 2 Corinthians 11:15 KJV: Therefore it is no great thing if his 
>> ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose 
>> end shall be according to their works.
>>
>> Jeremiah 7:4 KJV: 4 Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple 
>> [church/congregation] of the Lord, The temple of the Lord, The temple 
>> of the Lord, are these.
>>
>> 1 Thessalonians 2:14 KJV:
>> For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in 
>> Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of 
>> your own countrymen.
>>
>> Matthew 24:15-16 KJV:
>> When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of 
>> by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let 
>> him understand): Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the 
>> mountains:
>>
>> Matthew 24:14 KJV:
>> And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for 
>> a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
>>
> 
> These verses do not seem to match your proposition.
> Secondly, 1st Corinthians 15:1-4 show that all true believers are in the 
> process of being saved by the gospel. It cannot accurately be said that 
> God is only saving people outside the church. God is only saving people 
> who are the church.
> Thirdly, only people who are outside the church are being added to the 
> church. One would expect that the only new people who are coming to 
> salvation are the ones who are not yet saved, and who are therefore 
> outside the church.
> Fourthly, Harold Camping was a false prophet. He repeatedly predicted 
> the wrong date for the Lord's return. The Bible says that when a 
> prophet's claims don't come true, you shall not fear the prophet, he is 
> not from God.
> Fifthly, Harold Camping had a vested interest in drawing people to the 
> family radio ministry. By telling people to come out of the church, he 
> was setting himself up as the sole source of Truth for everyone.
> 
> Thus, your proposition makes no sense to me, and the verses you cite to 
> support it do not seem to mean what you try to imply. It's a marketing 
> ploy by Harold Camping, the false prophet, designed to lure people out 
> of the church under his sole control.
> 
Acts 17:11 KJV: These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in 
that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the 
scriptures daily, whether those things were so.