Re: Arrests made in child sexual assault case - COMMITTED AT NUDIST Park

"Neosapienis" <[email protected]> Sun, 14 Jun 26 17:03:13 UTC
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Hi Duncan,

I am familiar with that booklet you mentioned.  However, not all Anglicans 
agree with Dave & Karen's stance on nudity.  My first g/f was Anglican and 
only got into nudism when she was going out with me.  She didn't really 
enjoy it or make any friends, because when our relationship broke up she 
never continued with it.  Another lady friend of mine is in her early 20's 
and is also an Anglican and she's not interested in naturism, although she 
thinks it's okay for adults only to take part in it.

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"Duncan Heenan" <[email protected]> wrote in message 
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> <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 10:00:25 -0700 (PDT), williamblake
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>if you ask any
>>>Catholic, they will tell you that nudism is strictly against the
>>>Catholic religion.
>>
>> I'm a Catholic. Nudism is NOT strictly against the Catholic religion.
>> You are misinformed.
>>
>> -T.
> ---------------------
> I agree. William Blake is quite wrong in what he said.
> Maybe a quote from the last pope (John Paul11), may help:
> (
> http://www.traditioninaction.org/ProgressivistDoc/A_007_WojtylaNudism.htm  
> )
>
> " "There is nothing impure in clothing except that which, .... while
> covering the essential values of the person [the sexual organs], provokes 
> an
> inevitable reaction toward the person as a possible sexual object of
> pleasure ....
>
> "The concrete application of this simple and evident principle relies on 
> the
> individuals, means, and society. Dressing is always a social problem and,
> therefore, depends on the customs (good or bad). ....
>
> "But this by no means signifies that impurity of body is identified simply
> with partial or total nudity. There are circumstances in which nudity is 
> not
> impure. If someone uses it to treat the person as an object of pleasure -
> even if it is by bad thoughts - he alone is the one who commits an impure
> act. Impurity of body only occurs when nudity plays a negative role with
> respect to the value of the person. One can say that what happens then is 
> a
> de-personalization ....
>
> "Even knowing that nudity is not identical to impurity of the body, a real
> interior effort must be made to avoid assuming an impure attitude before a
> nude body. We should also add that impurity of action is not identical to
> the spontaneous reaction of sensuality that considers the body and sex as
> possible objects of joy. The human body per se is not impure, nor is the
> reaction of sensuality, nor sensuality itself. Impurity begins when the 
> will
> appropriates the reaction of sensuality and reduces the other person -
> because of his or her body and sex - to an object of pleasure."
> ------------------------------------------
>
> Clearly, the last Pope (who has not since been contradicted by the current
> one) believes that evil is in the mind of the beholder, not in the body, 
> or
> its exposure per se, so the Catholic faith is not at all at odds with 
> nudism
> / naturism.
> This is a view also supported by my wife who is an ordained priest in the
> Church of England, whose hierarchy are fully aware that she is a naturist,
> and have never objected at all.
> This whole subject is explored fully in "Naturism and Christianity; Are 
> they
> Compatible?" by Karen Gorham and Dave Leal.  ISBN1-85174-438-X [ 
> Obtainable
> from the BN online shop or Grove Books Ltd, Ridley Road Cambridge CB3 9HU.
> UK.]
>
>
> -- 
> Duncan Heenan
>