Re: A Christian Perspective on Nudity in Art

"Zee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> we have all with eyes have seen the works of talented artist create
> works of art without ever being in a museum and only familiar with
> what the public schools offer in this regard.....

We're not talking about people we know who can draw a bit, real talent
requires a lot of practice and effort to refine. And, yes, a lot of exposure
to the work of other artists. If you think otherwise then you are seriously
misinformed.

> and going to art schools
> to draw or paint or sculpture the naked body is a waste.....

Oh really?

> yes the
> physical world is different and needs labs and data to
> experiment....but the art world is total
> creativity ....

So what about writers, composers etc. Isn't what they do "pure creativity"?,
and do you expect them to be able to operate in ignorance of what the greats
have done before?

> rubens....

<quote>
In Antwerp, Rubens received a humanist education, studying Latin and 
classical literature. By fourteen he began his artistic apprenticeship with 
Tobias Verhaeght. Subsequently, he studied under two of the city's leading 
painters of the time, the late mannerists Adam van Noort and Otto van 
Veen.[2] Much of his earliest training involved copying earlier artists' 
works, such as woodcuts by Hans Holbein the Younger and Marcantonio 
Raimondi's engravings after Raphael. Rubens completed his education in 1598, 
at which time he entered the Guild of St. Luke as an independent master.[3]
<unquote>

Your point?

> abstract...modern is all copy cat.....

You reckon?, have you actually *seen* any modern art?

> doing
> what everyone else is doing that is the result of the museums and
> schools

Just shows how little you know what you are talking about.

> but the loner that puts his stuff on the sidewalk and just
> does his own thing is the most impressive to me....he portrays what he
> sees is worthy rather than what everyone else is doing.....

Are you suggesting that pavement artists aren't *very* aware of what other
pavement artists are doing?, if so can you explain why it is that they all
tend to produce very much the same sort of thing?

> of course
> you are the typical socialist ...

I am? what is a "typical socialist"?

> always trying to blend in.....

ROFLOL! Isn't it you who keeps on about not offending against "community
standards"? (In other words trying to blend in).

> even
> being one of those trashy models....

Showing your ignorance again Zee!

> for sure you are going to say what
> you say...no individualism in your life....but enjoy it but we all
> know who you are.....

But you just claimed that I'm a "typical socialist", so obviously you have
no idea who I am.

David.