Re: Is Being a Nude Art Model Dirty?

On Feb 24, 2:09 am, FREECOSPIRIT <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Without Nude Models it would be impossible for art students and
> artists to learn to draw or paint nudes.  There are a number of angles
> to be considered.
>
> The Models Perspective.
>
> Many models simply regard it as a job for which they get paid, some
> regard it as an art in itself with pose and expression being a part of
> the finished picture.  This is especially so from those model who do
> photographic work as well as posing for artists and get know exactly
> what is required of them.

Yeah, that is what I though the model's perception always was. It's
art. It isn't dirty.

But this person who wrote a book about her experience of being a nude
art model claims differently.

And she was only a model for art classes or such. It wasn't like she
was posing for "shady" stuff.


> The psycho-sexual aspect must be considered by almost all nude
> models.  Some will be uncomfortable with it and do their best to
> suppress it but for others it may be the main reason why they are life
> models.

But all she is doing is simple nudity. So if there is a psycho-sexual
aspect to that then there is a psycho-sexual aspect to all simple
nudity.

>
> Artists / Photogrpaher's Perspective
>
> The artist especially has to capture the image and is probably the
> most detached sexually from the model concentrating on the picture,
> interpretation of the model.   The photographer is out to emphasise
> different aspects depending on the audience for the picture.

But the model isn't being sexual. At least she isn't supposed to be.
She is just standing nude in front of a bunch of people.

I guess the difference between what she does and what nudists do
(besides the fact that she has to stand still and she is paid for
being nude) is that she is nude in front of a bunch of people with
clothes on. I guess one could argue that nudists on the other hand are
nude among likeminded nude people. So, they don't have the experience
of being the center of attention with their nudity being the focus.
So, for the nude art model it can't help but being exhibitionism on
their part whereas for the nudist it isn't exhibitionism because they
aren't the focus of attention, their nudity doesn't make them stand
out attract attention upon them. In fact more attention would be
directed at them at a nudist venue if they were clothed.

I guess that would be a significant difference.  Still I had always
thought of nude art modeling as one of the few cases of nonsexualized
nudity along with nudism.


> There are blatantly sexual images made purely for purposes of sexual
> gratification, both the models and the artists / photographers intend
> these to be for that purpose.

From my understanding she was simply a model for live drawing classes.

> Then there are nude pictures which try to show the human body in all
> its natural beauty.  These can be interpreted as such but some will
> choose to find them sexual despite the model's and the artist's
> intentions.

A "good" article can through subtle techniques sexify a  picture. That
is why one has to be so careful of art photographs of children
(clothed or nude).  The way the child (usually a girl) glances, her
facial gestures, or how she holds her posture can turn a "simple
nudity" photograph quickly into something so wrong. Some pervert
artists love to ever so slightly cross the line and plays upon the
uncomfortable uncertainty that such photos project to the audience.

> Conculsion.
>
> Painitng, sculptures and photographs of nudes can be what you want
> them to be.  The artist and model cannot be blamed for the unintended
> interpretations of their work.

But what if by the way they create the work by adding ever so subtle
elements, they want such interpretations.

> If a life model gets a high of being naked for an artist or
> photographer then who are we to judge them.

We are talking about a women who does nude modeling for a group of art
students .


>Sexually exploiting a
> model who is not comfortable with the poses, or not aware of their
> true purpose,  she or he is asked to make is wrong but if a model, who
> is mature and fully aware, wants to exploit themselves that is their
> choice even if we don't approve; just don't buy or view the pictures.

We are talking nude live art modeling which I always saw as
nonsexualized nudity. But I have never done such work. She has. So
whereas I might have had that impression, she has been there and done
that and she says that indeed what she does is not nonsexualized but
should be considered "dirty".