Re: Is Charismatic a pejorative term?

On May 22, 2024, Steve Hayes wrote
(in article<[email protected]>):

> On Wed, 22 May 2024 19:32:48 -0500, Lane Larson
> <[email protected]>  wrote:
>
> > Charismatic is a pejorative because the bobbleheads that walk around
> > with all the charisma and glitter have done nothing to earn their
> > positions of power it puts them in. I guess it means it is the opposite
> > of a meritocracy.
>
> Since no one seems to be talking about "charistamatic", I assume it
> was a typo, and changed the subject line.

It was a typo.
>
>
> "Charismatic" is pejorative to some people, for various reasons.
>
> It is not pejorative to other people for various different reasons.
>
> No doubt it would have been jejorative to Bishop Josephe Butler, who
> said to John Wesley:

I assume ‘ jejorative’ is likewise?
>
>
> Sir, the pretending to extraordinary revelations and gifts of the Holy
> Ghost is a horrid thing—a very horrid thing.
>
> Joseph Butler to John Wesley, 16 August 1739 (John Wesley Journal).

And pretending would be a fraudulent thing to do.
>
>
> Charismatic is an epithet often applied to Christians who do claim to
> have had extraordinary revelations and/or gifts of the Holy Spirit,
> and would be pejorative to those Christians who believe that the gifts
> of the Holy Spirit have ceased to be given.

Of which there is nothing scriptural to support that.
>
>
> It might also be seen to be perjorative by people who have encountered
> Christians who claim to have gifts of the Holy Spirit, but do not
> manifest fruits of the spirit.

Which was addressed indirectly in my original post in referencing 
‘carnal’ believers.
>
>
> If might also be seen to be pejorative be secular people who have
> encountered Christians who claim to be charismatic, but seem to adhere
> more strongly to right-wing authoritarian political views than to any
> spiritual beliefs.
>
> And so it goes.