Re: [RE] The most pagan icon in America: the CROSS.

Steve Hayes <[email protected]>
Newsgroups alt.bible,alt.religion,alt.religion.christian,alt.christnet.theology
Organization Khanya Publications
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 09:35:44 -0400, [email protected] wrote:

>On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 07:15:17 +0200, Steve Hayes
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 22:41:17 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>A cross is an unclean thing because the pagan uses of it in religious
>>>ceremonies. The Bible says the death instrument of Jesus was a stake
>>>not a cross. The Greek word the Bible used was "stauros", which in the
>>>first century meant an upright stake or pole. Look it up!
>>
>>The cross was an unclean thing because pagans (in this case the
>>ancient Romans) used it as an instrument of execution, especially for
>>those who had committed particularly heinous crimes like crimes
>>against the state. Crucifixion was not only death, it was a
>>dishonourable and shameful death, and death made anything associated
>>with it unclean. 
>>
>>But Jesus, the innocent victim, transformed the cross by his death and
>>resurrection into what Orthodox Christians refer to as "the honourable
>>and life-giving cross". The symbol of death with dishonour was
>>transfigured by one who died on it into a symbol of life and hope.
>>
>>If you want to call it a "stake", that's OK; you can just translate it
>>as "the honourable and life-giving stake."
>
>Morning,
>
>It's not what I  call it, but what the Bible calls it. A stauros; an
>upright stake or pole. That's the word the Bible writers used in the
>first century. Why would they call it that, if that isn't what it was?

Well yes, it's the "honourable and life-giving stavros" that I was
talking about. 


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