Re: =Questions for evolutionists=

[email protected] Mon, 27 Jul 2026 10:42:24 -0400
Newsgroups alt.bible,alt.bible.prophecy,alt.christnet.bible,alt.christnet
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 11:26:29 +0000, Creon <[email protected]> wrote:

>At Thu, 23 Jul 2026 12:21:29 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> ==Questions for Evolutionists==
>> 
>> Why is there a "genetic wall" (sterility) between the different
>> 'families' of lifeforms; dogs cannot produce offspring from cats,
>> horses from ducks, ants from grasshoppers, ect, ect, ect.?
>
>Because they are different species.
>
>Some species are related close enough to breed, such as a lion
>and a tiger.  Yes, that is a hybrid -- but a cat and a dog are
>too far apart in their genetic lineage.

It looks like there was some intelligence going on. But evolution is
blind, deaf, and dumb. How did it know how to keep species from
crossbreading out of existence?
>
>> If no super intelligence was behind the formations of these different
>> kinds of lifeforms,
>
>That isn't testable, so is outside the realm of science.  But
>go on...

The sun 'rises' each morning. Is that testable? Yes, get up early and
look out your window. It is a similar thing with breeding barriors
between species. If you try to breed a dog and a cat, it always shows
a failure. So it is testable. 

>
>> but only random chance,
>
>It's not "random chance", but natural selection, that drives a lot
>of evolution.

If something is blind, deaf, dumb, and is not alive, You are working
primarily on random chance. 

One thing evolutionists say is to look at mutations. That is alledly
how new species are formed. But the record for mutations is crystal
clear. Most are negative and the life form dies earlier than normal. 
So it's like taking one step forward, and two steps backward. We
shouldn't have all the species we have if brainless evolution was at
work. 

>
>Do you _not_ believe in artificial selection, such as the breeding
>of sows to be around 200 lbs, vs. what they used to be, around 1000 lbs?

Such things are not a matter of belief, but of reality. What's there
is there. 

>
>And so forth -- natural selection doesn't work by human agency, but
>by factors such as environment.

Since when does something brainless produce a complicated DNA
structure?

>
>> would not a person
>> logically expect that most of these would be able to hybridize?
>
>Since your predicate is mistaken, your conclusion does not logically
>follow.
>
>> (just
>> like one would expect a supposedly close lower form and a higher form
>> to hybridize; for ex. ape and human.)
>
>Species aren't "lower" or "higher", they are just "different".

The lower and higher is based on believers in evolution. Are you not
'higher' than an ant? Higher than an ape? At any rate, they are what
they are. 

>
>
>> But they can't under NATURAL conditions. Only varieties within the
>> various kinds can reproduce.  (like house cats with lions, etc) 
>
>Why would you think a house cat could breed with a lion?

I don't. My error. I should have said a lion with a tiger. 
>
>House cat: Felis catus
>Lion: Panthera leo
>Tiger: Panthera tigris
>
>Lions and tigers can breed -- but house cats are right out,
>they aren't even the same genus.
>
>
>> Why not try a reasonable approach that fits in with the true
>> scientific knowledge of today?
>> 
>> God's word, the Bible,
>
>According to the Bible, "God's word" -- _Logos_ -- is Jesus.
>(John 1:1).
>
>According to Heraclitus, _Logos_ is "the divine order".
>
>Whoever wrote the fourth Gospel wanted to sound very Hellenic,
>so tried to usurp a definition that had been in use for 5 centuries
>before.
>
>Anyway, I just wanted to address your misconceptions.  Carry on.

I don't have any misconceptions of the Bible. The cat and lion thing
is an error. Sometimes I type things out for further  examinations. I
forgot to delete that thing.

A look ahead
What the Bible shows
Go to: jw.org (7/27/2026)
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>
>> says that each life form was created according
>> to its "kind". (Ge 1:25) Thus, dogs started out as dogs as remain as
>> dogs. Horses as horses, ect. There can be a lot of variety within a
>> "kind". There are many different types of cats, dogs, ect. and they
>> can all interbreed, but only within their own kind.
>> 
>> Doesn't that pattern at least show some intelligence?
>> 
>> Since God put barriers between different families, it keeps the
>> different families or "kinds" as unique and thus won't crossbreed out
>> of existense. He did it so we can continue to enjoy or use them as
>> they originally are. (cats as cats, dogs as dogs, etc)
>> 
>> Isn't this approach at least, plausible, and worthy of more scientific
>> study? 
>> 
>> Politics and religion.
>> What the Bible says.
>> Go to: jw.org (7/23/2026)
>> [email protected]