Re: =Questions for evolutionists=

On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 11:37:49 -0700, Samuel Spade <[email protected]>
wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Jul 2026 05:04:35 -0700, Samuel Spade <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >[email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >> ==Questions for Evolutionists==
>> >> 
>> >> Why is there a "genetic wall" (sterility) between the different
>> >> 'families' of lifeforms; dogs cannot produce offspring from cats,
>> >> horses from ducks, ants from grasshoppers, ect, ect, ect.?
>> >> 
>> >> If no super intelligence was behind the formations of these different
>> >> kinds of lifeforms, but only random chance, would not a person
>> >> logically expect that most of these would be able to hybridize? (just
>> >> like one would expect a supposedly close lower form and a higher form
>> >> to hybridize; for ex. ape and human.)
>> >> 
>> >> But they can't under NATURAL conditions. Only varieties within the
>> >> various kinds can reproduce.  (like house cats with lions, etc) 
>> >> Why not try a reasonable approach that fits in with the true
>> >> scientific knowledge of today?
>> >
>> >You don't say why you'd expect common descent to
>> >produce clades that can interbreed.  Natural evolution
>> >is based on what works, whatever the pathway there.
>> 
>> Since evolution has no brain, how does it know "what works".
>> 
>> Also, genetic mutations most of the time are negative. Yet we are told
>> that evolution kept refining things utill they worked. 
>> How did evolution create a virus or bacteria, and a whale. The both
>> allegedly started from the same thing. A soup of varying molecules.
>
>How is that related to why you'd expect common descent
>to produce clades that can interbreed?

Because that force, called evolution, has no mind. It wouldn't care if
a species died out or not. It is blind, deaf, and dumb. Would you
expect a rock to create a computer? Of course not. Then how can you
expect evolution like that rock, (blind, deaf, and dumb), to create
marvelous complex structures like a human body that can produce
babies. 

We are talking about very complex creations and relating them to the
skills of a rock.

>
>Evolution is a natural process, like weather.  Since
>weather has no brain, how does it know what hurricane
>recipe works?

It doesn't 'know' anything. It is just responding to the
meteorological physics at that time. Can we say a similar thing for
evolution? Not at all. 

We keep having hurricanes when the physics are right. But if evolution
created all the life on earth, why isn't it still doing it? Have the
evolutionary physics that created all the life forms, just stopped?

And what about planets and moons? If evolution existed, why not so
much of a microbe exists, where on the earth it went bananas.

There are many life forms that have gone extinct. So the forces of
physics that originally created them no longer exists? When have you
ever seen natural physical laws cease to exist? 
 
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>
>> >It's messy, not a tidy, organized, consistent process
>> >like a human-like genetic designer might approach it.
>> 
>> Then where is all the intermediants it would have taken?
>> There should be billions of intermediants out there that didn't work.
>> Even the father of evolution found that to be a problem. He said,
>> 
>> "Why then is not every geological formation and every stratum full of
>> such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such
>> finely-graduated organic chain; and this, perhaps, is the most obvious
>> and serious objection which can be urged against the theory." (The
>> Origin of Species, by Charles Darwin)
>>

At least he was honest.
 
>> >
>> >On the other hand you might also expect an aware
>> >designer to occasionally start new "kinds" fresh from
>> >the ground up.  This is also not found in nature,
>> >every new clade is genetically derivative of something
>> >that came before it.
>> 
>> Yes, the virus and the whale. That idea works against common sense. 
>
>Sorry, that makes no sense.  Unable to parse.

Both of those things likely came from the same source. Its like a
giraffe giving birth to a rabbit. It makes no sense. 

But the main problem with their THEORY is the golden rule that in most
cases mutations produce deformities, and  that they usually die before
their time. That would be like taking 1 step forward, and 2 steps
backward. Kind of hard to get to your destination that way. 

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>
>> >Different species generally use different parts of the
>> >genome for a given function.  A certain chromasome
>> >location on one species doesn't necessarily serve the
>> >same function as it would in another species.  In fact
>> >closely related species don't generally even have the
>> >same number of chromasomes.  Chimpanzees, for example,
>> >have 24 pairs of chromasomes, while humans have 23.
>> >Obviously they can't interbreed.  OTOH, humans and
>> >neanderthals did.
>> 

Some artists show the Neanderthals as ape-like creatures with the IQ
of an olive. But is that really how they were? Not according to some
of the 'higher' educations

The "caveman" that artists draws is not supported in the Bible. When
God created Adam, he probably looked like us today. Adam was no olive.
He was given a full language (probably ancient Hebrew) and he even
recited poetry. See Genesis 2:23.

Many things about Neanderthals are like modern humans including a
brain the size of ours. 


>> Here is the mother load. Evolution allegedly created the modern human
>> brain. One scientist called it the most 'complex thing in the
>> universe'. How could a brainless force come up with that that brain?
>
>You tell me how the brain came about, without any
>appeal to magic.
>
In the Bible, Adam was created with a brain. All his parts were
created at once. 

You can't expect to get to the truth, if you put limitations on my
answer. I just answer truthfully.

>
>> Also, since evolution is brainless, how did it know that eyes were
>> needed by most life forms. It had no idea that sight was possible.
>> Electromagnetic waves of variouis frequencies had to be decoded in a
>> brain in order to 'see.' How about hearing. How did it know there was
>> sound waves, and then developed ears to decode the sound waves? Makes
>> no sense to me.
>>  
>> >
>> >
>> >> 
>> >> God's word, the Bible,
>> >
>> >is not a biology textbook.
>> 
>> It is a religious book, that does branch off into scientific things
>> occassionally.
>> 
>> For example what the Bible says about the cosmos. Around 2000 years
>
>If you can't explain biblical biology, just say so. No
>need to dive into the rabbit hole of biblical
>cosmology to avoid the biology issue.

The intent was not to change the subject, but to help support what the
Bible says. How do you define "biblical biology? I have studied the
Bible for many years. I believe it to be truthful and trustworthy esp
when it comes to some natural sciences.(like the earth being defined
as a "circle" (Isa 40:22) hanging upon nothing. (Job 26:7)

The word for "circle" is the Hebrew word "hhug", which some
translators translate as "Sphere".

>
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>> >>  says that each life form was created according
>> >> to its "kind". (Ge 1:25) Thus, dogs started out as dogs as remain as
>> >> dogs. Horses as horses, ect. There can be a lot of variety within a
>> >> "kind". There are many different types of cats, dogs, ect. and they
>> >> can all interbreed, but only within their own kind.
>> >> 
>> >> Doesn't that pattern at least show some intelligence?
>> 
>> For example, a tiger and a lion can interbreed, because they are
>> within their "Kind". They are called "ligers" and "tigons".
>> But since a lion and a housecat CANNOT interbreed, the Bible has its
>> own versions of what a "kind" is.

 
>> 
>> >No.  If lions could interbreed with house cats, why
>> >would that compromise the success of either species?
>> 
>> Since evolution is a psudo-science, It allegedly put 
>
>You are assuming your conclusion.  The truth doesn't
>work that way.

True, you need evidence to support your conclusion.
I gave you some which you 'snipped' out. To put it all together:

We have a spherical earth, floating in a void. Not bad for
sheepherders.

>> walls' up to keep a species going. Why would brainless evolution care
>> if new species formed? It doesn't care one way or the other. Yet it
>> put up those 'walls' on various lifeforms.
>
>The "walls" are because of the mechanics of the
>chemistry of life, as I already explained.  Not
>because some godlike entity decided they were needed
>to keep the races pure.
>
>So, again, if lions could interbreed with house cats,
>why would that compromise the success of either
>species?

It would create a new species. (like maybe a lion with a meek meow."
(:>)

Evolution didn't see it that way
>
>
>> That was super intelligence to keep those species separate, not blind chance.
>
>No.  It's physics and chemistry, as already explained.

Well, we still have physics and chemistry, why don't we see a new
species or new life forms in their early beginnings? Where are all the
intermediates? Even Darwin couldn't explain that.  
>
>
>> >> Since God put barriers between different families, it keeps the
>
>Assuming your conclusion again.
>
>God didn't put those barriers there.
>

Assuming your conclusion.
>> >> different families or "kinds" as unique and thus won't crossbreed out
>> >> of existense. He did it so we can continue to enjoy or use them as
>> >> they originally are. (cats as cats, dogs as dogs, etc)
>
>Why did God allow us to breed dogs from wolves?

They are within the same "kind", so of course they could interbreed.
The offspring is called "wolfdogs".

>Different species, yet they can interbreed *and* bear
>fertile offspring!

You are going by men's classification, not God's.  "and produce
healthy, fertile puppies called wolfdogs. They share 78 chromosomes
and over 99% of the same DNA, making them genetically compatible." 
(AI Overview)

>
>Did God overlook something?

That will never happen.

>
>
>> >> Isn't this approach at least, plausible, and worthy of more scientific
>> >> study?
>
>We just studied it and found nothing there.

Nothing for you. Many things for me.

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