Re: "...and then the end will come."

[email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2026 15:50:01 -0700, Samuel Spade <[email protected]> wrote:
> >[email protected] wrote:
> >
> >> "...and then the end will come."
> >> 
> >> What could possibly hold up the "end" from coming? According to Jesus,
> >> something MUST happen before God closes down and deletes this old
> >> system of things. Carefully notice the prophetic words of Jesus at Mt
> >> 24:14,
> >> 
> >> "And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as
> >> a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come." (NIV)
> >> 
> >> So we must find a preaching campaign about a "kingdom" gospel, going
> >> on in "the whole world", prior to the "end". Do we find that happening
> >> today? YES IT IS. How so?
> >
> >What exactly is The End?  Aren't there things that
> >have to come first like the rapture, the Tribulation,
> >and the millenial kingdom?
> 
> The Rapture is a misinterpretation of 1 Th 4:17:
> 
> Not everything in the Bible has as its target everyone. Sometimes it
> is only certain classes of people, or even OT enemy nations.
> 
> For example,the Bible tells us that humans (flesh and blood) cannot
> get into Heaven. (1 Co 15:50) Thus any 'rapturing' going on would
> likely be invisible to human eyes, since they would have to shed their
> physical bodies in order to get into Heaven. And that is what they do
> in vs 51,52. 

So you don't think most people will shed their
containers and become spirit beings.  One might have
hoped to float through walls, and do instant
hyperdimensional travel.

Doesn't this put JWs at a marketing disadvantage to
the churches?  Though the lack of eternal torment
makes up for it.


> But even if the 'rapture' was real, will ALL the righteous humans be
> 'raptured' away to Heaven? No not at all. God's word the Bible says
> that there will also be righteous people living forever right here on
> the earth, as the following scriptures reveal. Mt 5:5,
> 
> "Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth." (NIV)
> 
> God created this beautiful earth to have people on it. Thus not ALL
> good people will leave the earth and go to Heaven. Isa 45:18,
> 
> "For this is what the LORD says-- he who created the heavens, he is
> God; he who fashioned and made the earth, he founded it; he did not
> create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited--..." (NIV)
> 
> Ps 37:29,
> 
> "The upright will have the earth for their heritage, and will go on
> living there for ever." (The Bible in Basic English)

What happens when the sun becomes a red giant, and the
earth is cooked?  Will the upright move to a different
planet?  Or will there be divine intervention to keep
the earth cool?

Then when the sun is dead, does the earth get towed to
a new star?

And, how long is "forever"?  When the universe goes
dark & boring, and nothing is left but black holes,
will everything on earth continue on as always?


> Thus that Thessalonians Scripture is targeted only for those who go to
> Heaven. And that is a finite number; 144,000. (Rev 14:1; 7:4)
> 
> As we can see above, not ALL the righteous will go to Heaven. Many
> will be living on a cleansed earth. But what will those who go to
> Heaven do? They will assist Jesus in judging those living on the
> earth. They are called "priests" and "kings". (Rev 20:6)

I see.  THanks for explaining.