Re: False Satan's Witnesses Bible Doctrines: Eternal Earth

Samuel Spade <[email protected]>
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Christ Rose wrote:

> 1) Forever means undefined horizons, not eternity without end:

(...)
> Jonah 2:6
> 
> I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was
> about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O
> LORD my God.
> 
> Jonah was in the belly of the fish for only three days and three nights, 
> yet he describes that period as being enclosed "for ever." This shows 
> the word can describe a very short, finite period that carries a sense 
> of total enclosure or completion within its setting.

Here it sounds more like Jonah was talking about his
expectation at the time, rather than telling the story
afterwards, being that he wouldn't expect to get out of the
fish alive.  Since a human in a fish's stomach would have a
life expectancy of 2 minutes max, that makes sense.

"Forever" isn't functionally different from "for the rest of
my life".  After death comes eternity, during which Jonah's
story isn't going to evolve.

Of course, the dictionary definition of forever is still
eternity.

> 2) The Bible directly and repeatedly states the present heavens and 
> earth will be destroyed by fire, dissolve, flee, and be rolled up like a 
> garment.

Ok.

But why would God want to destroy "the heavens" with the
earth?  Isn't that where he and the angels live?  Did the
angels offend him?

We aren't just talking extraterrestrial bodies being
destroyed.  It says "all the host of heaven", so it's not
talking about Mars and Europa.  Unless this just reflects an
iron age notion that God & angels must live somewhere "up
there".

> And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be 
> rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the 
> leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.

What's the point of killing off all the angels?  Will the
good angels all rebel too?  Please do explain.

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> 3) It is the New Heavens and earth which believers inherit for eternity 
> (Revelation 21-22).

Is that going to be a physical new heaven & earth, or is it a
metaphor for the brave new spiritual world?
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