Re: JESUS is God/YHWH. Unbelievers Go to Lake of Fire

This Satan's Witness heretic denies Jesus is God, and promotes a false 
gospel that claims men's own death atones for their sins and that they 
can escape conscious eternal torment in hell while rejecting Christ as 
Savior.

1) Jesus is God

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Jesus is God. This truth stands at the center of the gospel and defines 
the Christian faith. The Bible teaches clearly, from beginning to end, 
that Jesus shares the divine nature, authority, and glory of God. Those 
who deny this truth reject what God has revealed about His Son. To 
understand why we say Jesus is God, we must walk through the Bible’s 
testimony.

The Old Testament prepared the way for the coming of God in the flesh. 
The prophet Isaiah foretold that a child would be born called “Mighty 
God” (Isaiah 9:6). In the same book, Isaiah said the coming voice in the 
wilderness would prepare the way of Yahweh Himself (Isaiah 40:3). When 
John the Baptist fulfilled this, he prepared the way for Jesus (Matthew 
3:3), showing that Jesus is Yahweh in human form.

The New Testament makes this even more clear. The Gospel of John begins 
by calling Jesus “the Word,” saying, “In the beginning was the Word, and 
the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (John 1:1, ESV). He was not 
created. He existed from the beginning with God and as God. Then John 
tells us, “And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us” (John 1:14, 
ESV). Jesus, the eternal Word, took on human nature without ceasing to 
be God.

Jesus claimed divine identity many times. In John 8:58, He said, “Before 
Abraham was, I am” (John 8:58, ESV). This statement echoes God’s name in 
Exodus 3:14—“I AM WHO I AM.” The Jews understood this clearly. They 
picked up stones to kill Him for blasphemy because He made Himself equal 
with God (John 8:59).

Jesus also forgave sins, something only God can do. When He told a 
paralytic, “Your sins are forgiven” (Mark 2:5, ESV), the scribes said, 
“Who can forgive sins but God alone?” (Mark 2:7, ESV). Jesus did not 
deny their logic. Instead, He healed the man to prove His divine 
authority (Mark 2:10).

Jesus accepted worship that belongs only to God. After His resurrection, 
Thomas fell before Him and said, “My Lord and my God!” (John 20:28, 
ESV). Jesus did not correct him. He affirmed Thomas’s faith. In 
contrast, when others tried to worship angels or apostles, they were 
stopped immediately (Acts 10:25-26; Revelation 22:8-9).

The apostle Paul also testified clearly. He said, “For in him the whole 
fullness of deity dwells bodily” (Colossians 2:9, ESV). Jesus does not 
merely reflect God. He is fully God in human flesh. Paul also called 
Jesus “our great God and Savior” (Titus 2:13, ESV) and said that Jesus, 
though equal with God, humbled Himself to become a man (Philippians 
2:6-7). His name is above every name, and every knee will bow to Him 
(Philippians 2:10-11), echoing Isaiah 45:23—a passage that speaks of 
Yahweh alone.

The author of Hebrews speaks the same way. Hebrews 1:3 says that Jesus 
is “the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his 
nature” (Hebrews 1:3, ESV). He upholds the universe by His word. In 
Hebrews 1:8, God the Father says to the Son, “Your throne, O God, is 
forever and ever” (Hebrews 1:8, ESV). This is a direct call to the Son 
as God.

Peter also confessed this truth. He opened his second letter by 
addressing believers who have received faith “by the righteousness of 
our God and Savior Jesus Christ” (2 Peter 1:1, ESV). This pairing of 
“God and Savior” refers to one Person—Jesus Christ.

Even the Old Testament titles and actions of God are applied to Jesus. 
God is called the first and the last (Isaiah 44:6). Jesus takes this 
same name in Revelation 22:13. God says He created everything alone 
(Isaiah 44:24), yet John says all things were made through Jesus (John 
1:3), and Paul agrees (Colossians 1:16-17). Jesus is not a lesser god. 
He is the Creator and sustainer of all things.

Jesus also bears the name above every name. In Philippians 2:10-11, all 
creation bows to Him and confesses Him as Lord. This word “Lord” (Greek: 
kurios) often translates the Hebrew name Yahweh in the Septuagint. 
Romans 10:13 quotes Joel 2:32, saying, “Everyone who calls on the name 
of the Lord will be saved.” Paul applies that to Jesus (Romans 10:9-13), 
showing that calling on Jesus is calling on Yahweh.

Jesus’s resurrection proves His claims. God raised Him from the dead to 
show that He is the Son of God in power (Romans 1:4). He now sits at 
God’s right hand (Hebrews 1:3), receives worship from angels (Hebrews 
1:6), and will return to judge the world (Acts 17:31), a role that 
belongs to God alone (Genesis 18:25).

Some try to deny His deity by saying He prayed to the Father or called 
the Father His God. But these truths show His humanity and His 
relationship to the Father, not a denial of deity. Jesus became fully 
man without ceasing to be fully God. He lived in perfect dependence on 
the Father as the second Adam (Romans 5:18-19; Philippians 2:6-8). He 
prayed, submitted, and obeyed to accomplish our salvation. The eternal 
Son added human nature so He could die for sins, rise again, and bring 
many sons to glory (Hebrews 2:10).

The Trinity explains this. The Father, the Son, and the Spirit are 
distinct Persons, but each is fully God. The Son is not the Father, but 
He shares the same divine nature. The Son came in the flesh. The Spirit 
applies His work. The Father sent the Son, the Son obeyed, and the 
Spirit testifies (John 14–16).

To reject Jesus as God is to reject the gospel. Unless He is truly God, 
He cannot save (John 8:24). A creature cannot bear the infinite wrath of 
God for our sins. Only God can save sinners (Isaiah 43:11). Jesus, fully 
God and fully man, bore our punishment and rose again. This gospel 
centers on who He is (1 Corinthians 15:1-4).

The Scriptures speak with one voice: Jesus is God. He is the eternal 
Word made flesh, the Son of God who shares the nature, works, titles, 
and worship of the Father. He is not just a good teacher or a powerful 
prophet. He is “our great God and Savior” (Titus 2:13, ESV). To believe 
in Him is to believe in God. To deny Him is to reject the only hope of 
salvation.

2) Jesus is YHWH

The disciples translated the OT name for God (YHWH) as Kyrios
(Lᴏʀᴅ), and attribute the name of YHWH to Jesus:

1. Joel 2:32 → Romans 10:13

      • Joel 2:32 (LXX): “Everyone who calls on the name of the LORD
        (Kurios) will be saved.”

      • Romans 10:13: “Everyone who calls on the name of the LORD
        (Kurios) will be saved.”

Paul applies this to Jesus in Romans 10:9, identifying Him as the
Kurios on whom we call for salvation.

2. Isaiah 45:23 → Philippians 2:10–11

      • Isaiah 45:23 (LXX): “To Me every knee shall bow, every tongue
        shall confess to God.”

      • Philippians 2:10–11: “At the name of Jesus every knee should
        bow... and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is LORD
        (Kurios).”

Paul applies this passage about YHWH to Jesus, calling Him Kurios.

3. Deuteronomy 6:4 → 1 Corinthians 8:6

      • Deuteronomy 6:4 (LXX): “The LORD (Kurios) our God, the LORD
        (Kurios) is one.”

      • 1 Corinthians 8:6: “Yet for us there is one God, the Father...
        and one LORD (Kurios), Jesus Christ.”

Paul affirms monotheism and includes Jesus as Kurios within the divine
identity.

4. Psalm 34:8 → 1 Peter 2:3

      • Psalm 34:8 (LXX): “Taste and see that the LORD (Kurios) is
        good.”

      • 1 Peter 2:3: “If indeed you have tasted that the LORD
        (Kurios) is good.”


Peter quotes the psalm about YHWH and applies it to Jesus as Kurios.


5. Isaiah 8:13–14 → 1 Peter 3:15; Romans 9:33

      • Isaiah 8:13: “But the LORD (Kurios) of hosts, Him you shall
        honor as holy...”


      • 1 Peter 3:15: “Honor Christ the LORD (Kurios) as holy in your
        hearts.”

      • Isaiah 8:14: “And He will become a sanctuary and a stone of
        stumbling...”


Romans 9:33 and 1 Peter 2:8 apply this stumbling stone to Christ,
identifying Him as the Kurios.


6. Psalm 102:25–27 → Hebrews 1:10–12

      • Psalm 102:25 (LXX): “You, LORD (Kurios), laid the foundation
        of the earth in the beginning.”

      • Hebrews 1:10: “You, LORD (Kurios), laid the foundation of the
        earth in the beginning.”

The writer explicitly says this was spoken “of the Son,” identifying
Jesus as Kurios.

7. Deuteronomy 10:17 → Revelation 19:16

      • Deuteronomy 10:17 (LXX): “For the LORD (Kurios) your God is

        God of gods and LORD (Kurios) of lords.”

      • Revelation 19:16: “King of kings and LORD (Kurios) of lords.”

The title for YHWH is applied to Jesus, who bears the name Kurios of all.

The New Testament authors consistently affirm Kurios as the proper
translation of YHWH and deliberately apply passages about the Kurios
of the Old Testament to Jesus Christ.


3) Everyone who rejects Jesus as Savior goes to conscious eternal 
torment in the lake of fire:


The claim that the second death is merely symbolic and does not involve 
conscious punishment contradicts the plain teaching of Scripture. 
Scripture repeatedly affirms that the second death is real, final, and 
includes conscious punishment for the unrighteous.

      "And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of
       fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and
       they will be tormented day and night forever and ever."
       (Revelation 20:10, ESV)

This verse directly contradicts the claim that there is no torment. The 
devil, beast, and false prophet are not annihilated—they are *tormented* 
eternally.

      "And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he
      was thrown into the lake of fire." (Revelation 20:15, ESV)

The lake of fire is not symbolic—it is the final destination for the 
unrighteous, following the resurrection and final judgment. It is the 
*second death*, and not merely symbolic or unconscious.

      "These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into
      eternal life." (Matthew 25:46, ESV)

Jesus explicitly states that the punishment is *eternal*, not temporary 
or symbolic. The parallelism with “eternal life” confirms that both 
destinies are equally enduring and conscious.

      "In a flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know
      God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They
      will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the
      presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might," (2
      Thessalonians 1:8-9, ESV)

This passage describes conscious suffering (“they will suffer”), not 
extinction or symbolic meaning. Eternal destruction refers to the 
irreversible, conscious ruin of their existence—not annihilation of being.

      "And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they
      have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its
      image..." (Revelation 14:11, ESV)

Torment "forever and ever" and “no rest, day or night” cannot be 
reconciled with the idea of unconsciousness or nonexistence.

      "Fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell." (Matthew
       10:28, ESV)

Jesus warns of hell (*Gehenna*) as a place where both body and soul are 
destroyed—not annihilated in the sense of nonexistence, but ruined in 
conscious judgment. The use of the word "destroy" (Greek: *apollymi*) 
can mean ruin, not necessarily extinction.

Moreover, divine justice is not measured by human emotional standards 
but by God's holiness and righteousness:

      "For the Lord is a God of justice; blessed are all those who wait
       for him." (Isaiah 30:18, ESV)

      "Righteous are you, O Lord, when I complain to you; yet I would
       plead my case before you. Why does the way of the wicked
       prosper?" (Jeremiah 12:1, ESV)

Human empathy does not overrule divine revelation. God’s justice 
includes wrath against sin and eternal punishment for unrepentant rebellion:

      "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."
      (Hebrews 10:31, ESV)

The second death is not a metaphor or symbol of unconsciousness. It is 
the eternal, conscious punishment of those who reject the gospel, and 
Scripture bears consistent, explicit witness to that reality.

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Good News †

Jesus is God: christrose.news/Jesus-God.

The message that Christ died for our sins and rose from the dead is the 
only true, saving gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4; Galatians 1:8-9). Any 
other message is false and condemns people to conscious, eternal torment 
in the lake of fire (2 Thessalonians 1:8-9; John 3:18-19; Revelation 
14:11; Revelation 19:20; Revelation 20:14-15). Denying that Jesus is God 
guarantees you will die in your sins (John 8:24).

Christ bore our sins on the cross to clear our debt before God 
(Colossians 2:14), and His resurrection stands as proof of that finished 
work (Romans 1:4). Now, God justly forgives those who believe (Romans 
3:26), granting escape from His impending judgment (1 Thessalonians 
1:10). This mercy is a free gift accessible only through faith (Romans 
6:23). If you believe this truth, call upon the Lord to save you today 
(Romans 10:9-13):

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