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From International Viewpoints (IVy) Issue 20 - January 1995 See Home Page at http://home8.inet.tele.dk/ivy/ Responsibility? By Otto Roos, Holland Ref. IVy 18, page 32, 'Scn - a workable system'. THE OVERALL CONCEPT of this article seems clear. Basically the same is said in 'Keeping Scientology Working'(1)(KSW). The article makes one wonder, though, who this Hari Seldon is that he considers himself capable of making statements like 'that so very few human beings have been able to assume responsibility for the Technology that Hubbard gave to us' (page 32, col 1, para.4) He then informs us that Hubbard would have said that 'he tried to train us into understanding the tech, but that we still do not understand' (page 32, col 2, para. 5). Hari Seldon apparently has the case handling technical qualifications to in his article tell us 'what Hubbard really tried to get across' (page 32, col 1). Are we to assume that LRH himself was incapable of doing what Hari offers us gratuitously?! Application? He tells us that 'if you know how to apply the tech you will get the results it was designed to achieve' (page 32, col 1, last three lines). One can continue to look through this article in this manner and find more of these type of arrogant assertions. True dedication I don't know who is hiding behind the Hari Seldon name. It is not a person who is aware of the untold number of people who spent years of their lives to learn to duplicate this technology and who did just that! I myself spent years being personally trained by LRH, and training many students under his supervision, all the way from Dianetics to Class XII, as well as being Senior Case Supervisor, Class VII to XII. Personally I have witnessed LRH expressing his happiness about his Flag auditors. People who spent years to tens of years in training to become good auditors! People who did understand the technology. In fact guys and girls who like myself, in innumerable WELL DONE to VERY WELL DONE sessions so marked by LRH C/S, caused him to be delighted. When the X to XII R/D's had been fully tested/run, he himself expressed his satisfaction about the arrival of 'the perfect auditors'! He was also happy in the earlier years when the Class VIII, and years before that when the Power Processing Class VII auditors came on the scene! (None of this is rumour line, I witnessed and was part of it as student, auditor, supervisor, case officer, review auditor, cramming officer and C/S.) We were a happy and able bunch, in fact in the even earlier years of the ACC's, and the BScn Courses, KSW, though not even written as policy, was the rule more than the exception among the professionals! Not all Flag auditors became Class XII's. No, but up to the level of their training, from Dianetics on up, many did become excellent auditors! They did live KSW, understand and apply tech. Many of them still do! The tech not working? Hari then says 'the only reason ... Technology does not seem to work...' (page 33, col 1, para. 2, #4). Who said that 'it does not seem to work'? In the IVys one reads about disaffection with the ethics procedure of the church, but one does not read much about people complaining because 'the tech doesn't seem to work'. In fact, it is only because it does work and because all the IVy readers know this and try to rescue it, that they even bother to write to IVy at all. The only thing that keeps us together is this tech and our knowing that it works! It may come as a surprise to Mr. Seldon, but I assure him that I and many many others can make it work! That I have done this for many tens of thousands of hours as auditor, solo auditor, LRH research auditor (of all the OT levels Hari Seldon has run and a lot he hasn't) and that I have known many Flag and other auditors up to 'the standard of The Standard'. I myself have always been a staunch supporter of the Standard (in fact my appointment by LRH was to assure exactly that, to increase adherence to this thing called 'The Standard'!) I have made my goofs and I have had to swim for it (in the old days of overboarding on the first VIII Course in Corfu!), but like many of my fellow students came through! None of us ever doubted that the tech worked, and not many of us failed in acquiring the skills to make it work! None of the auditors who dedicated their whole lives to our technology need to be told the things this arrogant, invalidative, and patronizing article is trying to ram down one's throat! New technology The article says that 'we do not need new Technology'. What utter nonsense! LRH had a group of Research auditors who did nothing but, under his directions, look for and find new technology. The art and nature of the exact counter effort which had to be handled as one went higher up the Awareness Levels (the OT levels, the Class X to XII procedures, The Upper Level Developments from Power Processing on up, to NOTs, OT8 and beyond!) had to be found and technology to handle these new areas had to be developed and tested. The same had also happened in earlier Goals running days. In the latter years the research, especially when handling the basis of insanity, was done by a group of Class XII auditors, personally hand trained by LRH who he himself called 'the perfect auditors'. Those 'perfect auditors' could, Mr. Seldon, apply the tech and they also trained others. If Hari Seldon is so convinced that 'if you know how to apply it you will get the results it was designed to achieve' (page 32, col. 1, last lines), he is hereby invited to show where in the world a TRUE book I Clear can be found. An individual who truly has all the characteristics of the Book I Clear. As Hari cannot do this then, according to his article, Nobody has ever been able to apply the Tech, as no such clear was ever produced! I know how to and can apply the technology. There will not be many who would refute that. But there are many others who, within the limits of their training, have done so, can do, and do do exactly the same. Yet, the Book I Clear has never been produced by anyone, including LRH! This only means the Tech is lacking somewhere along the line. 'Lacking' only in the sense that 'it is not complete', hence new tech must (has been and is being!) be found. New Tech must always be found in each developing science. The processes of further development cannot ever stand still! There are only a very few auditors who have co-researched under LRH on the further development of areas beyond NOTs. (Much of which, strangely enough, was found before the development of NOTs!) These new areas of aeons old unhandled counter effort each need their own procedures. Blame? I do not blame the CofS because 'I did not go OT'. I have spent my whole life in the Tech. Also in daily life I have been and am successful and very much OT, if we may define this state as merely a certain level of effective CAUSE! Much of this is due to the training I received when it was still available! I am very grateful indeed for this privilege. So, how can one not hold this church accountable when it makes further training and going up the levels unavailable to many!? When access is being denied to the correct technology which we, according to the article, should have! Indeed we should have it. There are those of us, Mr. Seldon, who do have it, who lived and trained in the days before a group madness drove out many well meaning, well trained, very dedicated people, who did work on the lines of KSW. Some of these dedicated people are not now in a similar position of being able to increase their skills in the same manner as people like myself could. (I recently discussed this with Steve Bisbey, an old time C/S, who also regretted the passing of the old training days under the Flag Rules.) The unbelievable absolute arrogance to blame and to talk down to some of the dedicated people, who want nothing better than to train and train and train, for 'failing to grow from the ARC triangle to the KRC triangle' (page 33, col 2, last 3 lines) is absolutely appalling! That many of the people mentioned left the church not wanting to compromise their integrity, as a result of which they no longer had immediate access to standard training, cannot be swept aside by merely telling them to 'accept responsibility'. They just did not want to continue living a lie, not even for the sake of 'receiving their training and Upper Levels'! Now, that, Mr. Seldon, is LIVING STANDARD TECH and BASIC TRUTH! There are a lot more people than your article implies who do command the Tech to a high degree. There are also lots of people who would want nothing better than to reach just that level of grasp. That the road has been shut is not their responsibility. Nor will that road remain shut for ever! What tech qualifications, Mr. Seldon, entitle you to dish out preachings, make wrongs, and invalidations under the cover of a pseudonym!? (1)First issued 7th February 1965, this Policy Letter of Ron's became a bit of a joke in some quarters, since one was required to read it and check out on it for every small or large course one took in the church.Ed. ================ http://www.clearing.org ==================== Fri Mar 31 00:06:03 EDT 2023 FTP://ftp.lightlink.com/pub/archive/ivy/iv-20-05.txt WWW://www.clearing.org BLOG://adoretheproof.blogspot.com Send mail to [email protected] saying help ================== http://www.lightlink.com/theproof =================== Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty. 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