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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 89 18:57:19 EDT
From: Homer <CTM@CORNELLC>
Subject: Re: WAR IS NOT ALWAYS AN EVIL
To: Disarmament Discussion List <DISARM-L@ALBNYVM1>,
adore-l@ualtavm
In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 19 Jun 89 09:51:23 EDT from <[email protected]>
>On Sun, 18 Jun 89 17:29:56 IST Ronen Shapira said:
>>the jewish people lost millions of people because of such an ideal, because
>>it was tought that "dying for the holliness of god" (excuse me if the
>>translation is uncorect), is the best way of fighting. millions that could
>>save themselves refuse to do so because of such principle, and the few
>>survivors were save only by the use of violence.
>
>It has always struck me, a Christian, strange that most cases in modern
>history where a people "turned the other cheek" involved non-Christian
>peoples. Although this is a directive from Christ, it seems foreign to
>most Christians. We genuinely wonder "How could so many have died without
>a stuggle?" and start to idealize the Warsaw Ghetto where there was at
>least some armed resistance towards the end. We feel uncomfortable with
>non-resistance to evil, even though this is at the heart of our Gospels.
>
>Jim
Maybe Christians want people to 'turn the other cheek'
because they want to continue with their wars of conversion against them
without having them complain or fight back.
Homer Disarmament Discuss 6/19/89*WAR IS NOT ALWAYS AN EVIL
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