Re: MRRF advocating "military" religion

On 5/31/2021 5:24 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 5/31/21 7:05 AM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 May 2021 06:39:45 -0500, David Hartung
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/30/21 9:23 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/30/21 2:25 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/30/2021 6:35 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>> This is at the tome of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation
>>>>>>> website:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "When one proudly dons a U.S. Military Uniform, there is only one
>>>>>>> religious symbol: The U.S. Flag. There is only one religious
>>>>>>> scripture: the American Constitution. Finally, there is only one
>>>>>>> faith: American patriotism."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would seem that they are int he business of destroying the First
>>>>>>> Amendment, rather than defending it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, that's exactly wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       The Military Religious Freedom Foundation is dedicated to
>>>>>>    ensuring
>>>>>> that all
>>>>>>       members of the United States Armed Forces fully receive the
>>>>>> Constitutional
>>>>>>       guarantees of religious freedom to which they and all Americans
>>>>>>    are
>>>>>> entitled
>>>>>>       by virtue of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       MRFF recognizes that military life requires individual
>>>>>>    adherence to
>>>>>> shared
>>>>>>       patriotic principles. MRFF also recognizes the need for
>>>>>>    military
>>>>>> personnel to
>>>>>>       at times temporarily relinquish some Constitutionally granted
>>>>>>    personal    freedoms for the sake of military discipline and
>>>>>>    objectives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       However, MRFF believes that religious faith is a
>>>>>>    Constitutionally
>>>>>> guaranteed
>>>>>>       freedom that must never be compromised, except in the most
>>>>>>    limited of    military circumstances, because of its fundamental
>>>>>>    importance to the    preservation of the American nation and the
>>>>>>    American way of life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Additionally, MRFF adheres strongly to the principle that
>>>>>>    religious
>>>>>> faith is
>>>>>>       a deeply personal matter, and that no American has the right to
>>>>>> question
>>>>>>       another American’s beliefs as long as they do not unwontedly
>>>>>>    intrude
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>       public space or the privacy or safety of another individual.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       https://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/about/our-mission/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are staunch, stalwart defenders of the first amendment against
>>>>>> the attacks on it by theocratic Taliban-like extremists like you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet they seem to thrive on restricting the religious exercise of
>>>>> military members.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       "Military members" AGREE to sacrifice their
>>>> religious obligations when enlisting.
>>>
>>> Oh? Please explain.
>>
>> Hollowman knows nothing about the military. I serviced [sic in the Army for

Oh, I'll just *bet* you "serviced" in the army!  You serviced all the non-comm 
officers and warrant officers, didn't you?


>> 5 years and there was no such agreement. Quite the contrary.
>>
>> Here is a "Religious Freedom in the Military – FAQ"
>> https://firstliberty.org/rights/religious-freedom-in-the-military-faq/
> 
> I am certain that Firstliberty is not among the sources which Holman considers 
> to be authoritative

With good reason:  it's a far right-wingnut hate group.