Re: MRRF advocating "military" religion

On 5/31/21 9:51 AM, Bill Flett wrote:
> On 5/31/2021 5:24 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>> On 5/31/21 7:05 AM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>>> On Mon, 31 May 2021 06:39:45 -0500, David Hartung
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/30/21 9:23 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>> David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/30/21 2:25 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/30/2021 6:35 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>> This is at the tome of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation
>>>>>>>> website:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "When one proudly dons a U.S. Military Uniform, there is only one
>>>>>>>> religious symbol: The U.S. Flag. There is only one religious
>>>>>>>> scripture: the American Constitution. Finally, there is only one
>>>>>>>> faith: American patriotism."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It would seem that they are int he business of destroying the First
>>>>>>>> Amendment, rather than defending it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, that's exactly wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       The Military Religious Freedom Foundation is dedicated to
>>>>>>>    ensuring
>>>>>>> that all
>>>>>>>       members of the United States Armed Forces fully receive the
>>>>>>> Constitutional
>>>>>>>       guarantees of religious freedom to which they and all 
>>>>>>> Americans
>>>>>>>    are
>>>>>>> entitled
>>>>>>>       by virtue of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       MRFF recognizes that military life requires individual
>>>>>>>    adherence to
>>>>>>> shared
>>>>>>>       patriotic principles. MRFF also recognizes the need for
>>>>>>>    military
>>>>>>> personnel to
>>>>>>>       at times temporarily relinquish some Constitutionally granted
>>>>>>>    personal    freedoms for the sake of military discipline and
>>>>>>>    objectives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       However, MRFF believes that religious faith is a
>>>>>>>    Constitutionally
>>>>>>> guaranteed
>>>>>>>       freedom that must never be compromised, except in the most
>>>>>>>    limited of    military circumstances, because of its fundamental
>>>>>>>    importance to the    preservation of the American nation and the
>>>>>>>    American way of life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       Additionally, MRFF adheres strongly to the principle that
>>>>>>>    religious
>>>>>>> faith is
>>>>>>>       a deeply personal matter, and that no American has the 
>>>>>>> right to
>>>>>>> question
>>>>>>>       another American’s beliefs as long as they do not unwontedly
>>>>>>>    intrude
>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>       public space or the privacy or safety of another individual.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       https://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/about/our-mission/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are staunch, stalwart defenders of the first amendment against
>>>>>>> the attacks on it by theocratic Taliban-like extremists like you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet they seem to thrive on restricting the religious exercise of
>>>>>> military members.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       "Military members" AGREE to sacrifice their
>>>>> religious obligations when enlisting.
>>>>
>>>> Oh? Please explain.
>>>
>>> Hollowman knows nothing about the military. I serviced [sic in the 
>>> Army for
> 
> Oh, I'll just *bet* you "serviced" in the army!  You serviced all the 
> non-comm officers and warrant officers, didn't you?
> 
> 
>>> 5 years and there was no such agreement. Quite the contrary.
>>>
>>> Here is a "Religious Freedom in the Military – FAQ"
>>> https://firstliberty.org/rights/religious-freedom-in-the-military-faq/
>>
>> I am certain that Firstliberty is not among the sources which Holman 
>> considers to be authoritative
> 
> With good reason:  it's a far right-wingnut hate group.

As compared to the left wing "main stream" sources you cite?