Re: "Dem Officials Cooking Up Plan to Obliterate Memorial Above Grave of Confederate, Unearth the Deceased Officer"

On 6/1/2021 1:55 AM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
> On Mon, 31 May 2021 19:18:14 -0400, Jonathan <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 5/31/2021 11:54 AM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>>> On Mon, 31 May 2021 11:31:43 -0400, Jonathan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/31/2021 10:54 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>> https://www.westernjournal.com/dem-officials-cooking-plan-obliterate-memorial-grave-confederate-unearth-deceased-officer/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> Democrats in Virginia are set to dig up the remains of a Confederate
>>>>> Civil War general and tear down a memorial as the American left
>>>>> continues its campaign to rewrite history.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good, and if a NAZI symbol was unearthed and burned
>>>> I'd be quite happy too.
>>>>
>>>> The Confederacy was a TRAITOROUS attempt to
>>>> overthrow the US govt and constitution.
>>>> Not only that it sought to destroy America
>>>> in order to keep it's slave-driven economy.
>>>>
>>>> No one forgets the civil war, but no patriotic
>>>> decent thinking AMERICAN should revere those
>>>> that attempted to destroy America and
>>>> American values, killing hundreds of thousands
>>>> of Americans in the process.
>>>
>>> I agree with all the facts you've given but not your attitude or your
>>> politics. I grew up in a Northern state that provided a large percent
>>> of it's male population to the war. I have no direct connection to the
>>> Southern cause.
>>>
>>> However, I believe the latest orgy of destruction is not aimed at
>>> Southern history but the history of the nation in general.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you really believe that it's about 'history' and
>> not about glorifying slavery and racism?
> 
> Statues to Confederate generals etc were not set up to 'glorify
> slavery and racism'.
> 


Bullshit most of the Confederate statues went up
at the same time the KKK made a comeback. That
wasn't a coincidence.

It was their way of letting everyone know
white supremacy runs the nation, just like
today with Trumpsters bringing white supremacy
back into the mainstream.

You say it's about history, but are ignorant
of this simple and defining fact of this
specific period of history.

Why is that? Does this below sound familiar???

See the chart in the first link, most statues
were build in the early 1900's, the same time
the KKK made it's big comeback.


Confederate Statues Were Never Really About Preserving
History
By Ryan Best

Confederate monuments by year dedicated
(chart)

The biggest spike in Confederate memorials came during the
early 1900s, soon after Southern states enacted a number
of sweeping laws to disenfranchise Black Americans and
segregate society. During this period, more than 400 monuments
were built as part of an organized strategy to reshape
Civil War history. And this effort was largely spearheaded
by the United Daughters of the Confederacy, who sponsored
hundreds of statues, predominantly in the South in the
early 20th century — and as recently as 2011.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/confederate-statues/


The Ku Klux Klan in the 1920s

Nearly 50 years later, in 1915, "Colonel" William Joseph
Simmons, revived the Klan after seeing D. W. Griffith's
film Birth of A Nation, which portrayed the Klansmen as great heroes
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/flood-klan/





HUMAN RIGHTS
POLITICS
HISTORY
The group behind Confederate monuments also built a memorial to the Klan

Consider the United Daughters of the Confederacy. The
Richmond, Virginia-based group is best known for erecting
monuments to Confederate veterans, but its influence on
American history is far more pervasive.

It was against this backdrop that the UDC flourished, eventually
growing to almost 100,000** members nationwide and gaining
an astounding amount of political power for a women's
organization in a time when women could not even vote.

To that end, the UDC launched a long-term campaign to re-write
the history of the Civil War, the South, and the country.
By building monuments to the Confederacy and gaining control
of school curricula, the Daughters spread a false history
aimed at perpetuating the culture and ideals of the
Civil War-era South, a society built on white supremacy.
And they were remarkably successful.

Their delivery vehicle was the "Lost Cause" ideology, which
promoted broad, romanticized, largely fictional assertions
designed to absolve the South from any blame in the Civil War
and to vindicate the Southern cause. It was pure propaganda.
Its core assertions:

States rights (usually, the right to secede) and not slavery
were the cause of the Civil War.

Slaves were content and happy and not mistreated in slavery.
In fact, they benefited from slavery.

Confederate soldiers were heroic, mythical figures to be revered
for defending the South and its way of life.

Although never named as its goal, white supremacy underpins
the entire "Lost Cause" ideology. To focus only on one part,
like the monument building, means missing the forest
for the trees.


https://www.facingsouth.org/2018/06/group-behind-confederate-monuments-also-built-memorial-klan








>>
>> You're kidding yourself.
> 
> I'm not that ignorant.
> 
>> And I were to get horribly offended at the
>> destruction of NAZI symbols, claiming I'm
>> just worried about 'history', would you
>> believe that I'm not a supporter of Hitler?
> 
> I have a 1939 Iron Cross and a 1935 edition
> of 'Mein Kampf' because I collect historical knick-knacks and not
> because I love nazis.
>>
>>> Don't forget - there are statues of Lincoln and Washington that have
>>> come down in recent months.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Doesn't bother me.
> 
> So you think Lincoln and Washington 'glorified slavery and racism' or
> you're simply ignorant in a more general way?
> 
> Would bringing down statues of ML King, FDR and JFK bother you?
> 


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