Re: Dem Officials Cooking Up Plan to Obliterate Memorial Above Grave of Confederate, Unearth the Deceased Officer

On 6/1/2021 8:24 AM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 6/1/21 5:17 AM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 05:05:32 -0500, David Hartung
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/1/21 4:46 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 31 May 2021 21:05:26 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Blue Lives Matter <andy_franklyn@I_aint_woke.org> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 31 May 2021 16:31:07 -0500, David Hartung
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/31/21 3:35 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 31 May 2021 15:32:14 -0500, David Hartung
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/31/21 12:45 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.westernjournal.com/dem-officials-cooking-plan-oblitera 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> te-me morial-grave-confederate-unearth-deceased-officer/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>> Democrats in Virginia are set to dig up the remains of a
>>>>>>>>>>> Confederate Civil War general and tear down a memorial as the
>>>>>>>>>>> American left continues its campaign to rewrite history.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The city of Richmond, Virginia, is currently finalizing plans to
>>>>>>>>>>> disinter the remains of Gen. Ambrose Powell “A.P.” Hill and to
>>>>>>>>>>> tear down the monument that honors his life. WRIC-TV reported
>>>>>>>>>>> that, under the orders from city officials, including millennial
>>>>>>>>>>> Democratic Mayor Levar Stoney, Hill will be dug up and erased
>>>>>>>>>>> from the city’s collective memory.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A committee right now is looking over the logistics of that, and
>>>>>>>>>>> is working with descendants of Hill regarding where to relocate
>>>>>>>>>>> his remains. [...]
>>>>>>>>>>> Hill is being canceled 136 years after he was shot through the
>>>>>>>>>>> heart by a Union soldier on April 2, 1865 — just weeks before 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> end of the Civil War. By all accounts, Hill never owned any
>>>>>>>>>>> slaves and never supported slavery. He simply felt compelled to
>>>>>>>>>>> fight for Virginians during a time when many Americans were more
>>>>>>>>>>> concerned about their neighbors and their individual states than
>>>>>>>>>>> their loyalty to the nation as a whole.
>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is a key point, Loyalty to the national government rather
>>>>>>>>>>> than to the state was still a developing concept in 1861.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>          When Hill graduated West Point
>>>>>>>>>> he swore an oath of loyalty the US
>>>>>>>>>> Constitution, not his state.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And he properly resigned that commission when he decided that his
>>>>>>>>> loyalty properly belonged to the state of Virginia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually, he never swore an oath to the Constitution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check your facts:
>>>>>>> https://history.army.mil/html/faq/oaths.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My understanding is that their was no swearing in at West Point
>>>>>> graduation and the oaths were when the officers were sworn in to the
>>>>>> state militia.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>      You are, as usual, wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "I, _________, do solemnly swear (or affirm)
>>>>> that I will support and defend the Constitution
>>>>> of the United States against all enemies, foreign
>>>>> and domestic; that I will bear true faith and
>>>>> allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation
>>>>> freely, without any mental reservation or purpose
>>>>> of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully
>>>>> execute the duties of the office on which I am
>>>>> about to enter, so help me God."
>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/48wbc98r
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hollowhead imagines West Point rules were the same back before the
>>>> Civil War.
>>>
>>> Holman does that sort of thing often.
>>
>> Here's a page that gives some history of the oaths of US officers:
>>
>> https://history.army.mil/html/faq/oaths.html
>>
>> I'm sure Hollowman did not bother researching the history. His
>> references, when he gives them at all, are very often a mile wide and
>> an inch deep.
> 
> Yeah, I posted that yesterday, he has seen it and has ignored it.
> 


OK then the Confederate Generals TOOK AN OATH TO DESTROY AMERICA.

And that makes them heroes in your eyes eh?

Oh wait, it's just about history right?
Ya right, you think you're fooling anyone with
half a brain?

This is the 'history' of Confederate monuments.
Those monuments should be ground into gravel
for our sidewalks, so we can walk and...spit on them
every single day.

Most of the Confederate statues went up
at the same time the KKK made a comeback.

That wasn't a coincidence.

It was their way of letting everyone know
white supremacy runs the nation, just like
today with Trumpsters bringing white supremacy
back into the mainstream today.

You say it's about history, but are ignorant
of this simple and defining fact of this
specific period of history.

Why is that? Does below sound familiar???

See the chart in the first link, most statues
were build in the early 1900's, the same time
the KKK made it's big comeback.


Confederate Statues Were Never Really About Preserving
History
By Ryan Best

Confederate monuments by year dedicated
(chart)

The biggest spike in Confederate memorials came during the
early 1900s, soon after Southern states enacted a number
of sweeping laws to disenfranchise Black Americans and
segregate society. During this period, more than 400 monuments
were built as part of an organized strategy to reshape
Civil War history. And this effort was largely spearheaded
by the United Daughters of the Confederacy, who sponsored
hundreds of statues, predominantly in the South in the
early 20th century — and as recently as 2011.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/confederate-statues/


The Ku Klux Klan in the 1920s

Nearly 50 years later, in 1915, "Colonel" William Joseph
Simmons, revived the Klan after seeing D. W. Griffith's
film Birth of A Nation, which portrayed the Klansmen as great heroes
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/flood-klan/





HUMAN RIGHTS
POLITICS
HISTORY
The group behind Confederate monuments also built a memorial to the Klan

Consider the United Daughters of the Confederacy. The
Richmond, Virginia-based group is best known for erecting
monuments to Confederate veterans, but its influence on
American history is far more pervasive.

It was against this backdrop that the UDC flourished, eventually
growing to almost 100,000** members nationwide and gaining
an astounding amount of political power for a women's
organization in a time when women could not even vote.

To that end, the UDC launched a long-term campaign to re-write
the history of the Civil War, the South, and the country.
By building monuments to the Confederacy and gaining control
of school curricula, the Daughters spread a false history
aimed at perpetuating the culture and ideals of the
Civil War-era South, a society built on white supremacy.
And they were remarkably successful.

Their delivery vehicle was the "Lost Cause" ideology, which
promoted broad, romanticized, largely fictional assertions
designed to absolve the South from any blame in the Civil War
and to vindicate the Southern cause. It was pure propaganda.
Its core assertions:

States rights (usually, the right to secede) and not slavery
were the cause of the Civil War.

Slaves were content and happy and not mistreated in slavery.
In fact, they benefited from slavery.

Confederate soldiers were heroic, mythical figures to be revered
for defending the South and its way of life.

Although never named as its goal, white supremacy underpins
the entire "Lost Cause" ideology. To focus only on one part,
like the monument building, means missing the forest
for the trees.


https://www.facingsouth.org/2018/06/group-behind-confederate-monuments-also-built-memorial-klan






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