Re: Dem Officials Cooking Up Plan to Obliterate Memorial Above Grave of Confederate, Unearth the Deceased Officer

On 6/1/2021 10:27 AM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 10:01:21 -0400, Jonathan <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/1/2021 8:24 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>> On 6/1/21 5:17 AM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 05:05:32 -0500, David Hartung
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/1/21 4:46 AM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 31 May 2021 21:05:26 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blue Lives Matter <andy_franklyn@I_aint_woke.org> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 31 May 2021 16:31:07 -0500, David Hartung
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/31/21 3:35 PM, Blue Lives Matter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 31 May 2021 15:32:14 -0500, David Hartung
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/31/21 12:45 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.westernjournal.com/dem-officials-cooking-plan-oblitera
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> te-me morial-grave-confederate-unearth-deceased-officer/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Democrats in Virginia are set to dig up the remains of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Confederate Civil War general and tear down a memorial as the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> American left continues its campaign to rewrite history.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The city of Richmond, Virginia, is currently finalizing plans to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> disinter the remains of Gen. Ambrose Powell “A.P.” Hill and to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tear down the monument that honors his life. WRIC-TV reported
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, under the orders from city officials, including millennial
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Democratic Mayor Levar Stoney, Hill will be dug up and erased
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the city’s collective memory.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A committee right now is looking over the logistics of that, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is working with descendants of Hill regarding where to relocate
>>>>>>>>>>>>> his remains. [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hill is being canceled 136 years after he was shot through the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> heart by a Union soldier on April 2, 1865 — just weeks before
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> end of the Civil War. By all accounts, Hill never owned any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> slaves and never supported slavery. He simply felt compelled to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fight for Virginians during a time when many Americans were more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerned about their neighbors and their individual states than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their loyalty to the nation as a whole.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a key point, Loyalty to the national government rather
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than to the state was still a developing concept in 1861.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>           When Hill graduated West Point
>>>>>>>>>>>> he swore an oath of loyalty the US
>>>>>>>>>>>> Constitution, not his state.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And he properly resigned that commission when he decided that his
>>>>>>>>>>> loyalty properly belonged to the state of Virginia.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Actually, he never swore an oath to the Constitution.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Check your facts:
>>>>>>>>> https://history.army.mil/html/faq/oaths.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My understanding is that their was no swearing in at West Point
>>>>>>>> graduation and the oaths were when the officers were sworn in to the
>>>>>>>> state militia.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       You are, as usual, wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "I, _________, do solemnly swear (or affirm)
>>>>>>> that I will support and defend the Constitution
>>>>>>> of the United States against all enemies, foreign
>>>>>>> and domestic; that I will bear true faith and
>>>>>>> allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation
>>>>>>> freely, without any mental reservation or purpose
>>>>>>> of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully
>>>>>>> execute the duties of the office on which I am
>>>>>>> about to enter, so help me God."
>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/48wbc98r
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hollowhead imagines West Point rules were the same back before the
>>>>>> Civil War.
>>>>>
>>>>> Holman does that sort of thing often.
>>>>
>>>> Here's a page that gives some history of the oaths of US officers:
>>>>
>>>> https://history.army.mil/html/faq/oaths.html
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure Hollowman did not bother researching the history. His
>>>> references, when he gives them at all, are very often a mile wide and
>>>> an inch deep.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I posted that yesterday, he has seen it and has ignored it.
>>>
>>
>>
>> OK then
> 
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> 
> This 'Jonathan' character isn't really working for you, Dwarf.
> 
> Time to rethink?
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