Re: The Everyday Misery of Life Under Israeli Occupation

David Hartung <[email protected]> Mon, 24 May 2021 06:53:40 -0500
Newsgroups alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.comedy
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On 5/23/21 10:36 PM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 13:08:46 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> On 5/23/21 8:56 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/21 8:56 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>> David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/22/21 2:22 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>> An eviction in East Jerusalem lies at the center of a conflict
>> that
>>>>>>>> led to war between Israel and Hamas. But for millions of
>>>>>>>> Palestinians, the routine indignities of occupation are part of
>>>> daily
>>>>>>>> life.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By David M. Halbfinger and Adam Rasgon
>>>>>>>> May 22, 2021
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> JERUSALEM — Muhammad Sandouka built his home in the shadow of
>> the
>>>>>>>> Temple Mount before his second son, now 15, was born.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They demolished it together, after Israeli authorities decided
>> that
>>>>>>>> razing it would improve views of the Old City for tourists.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mr. Sandouka, 42, a countertop installer, had been at work when an
>>>>>>>> inspector confronted his wife with two options: Tear the house
>> down,
>>>>>>>> or the government would not only level it but also bill the
>>>> Sandoukas
>>>>>>>> $10,000 for its expenses.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Such is life for Palestinians living under Israel’s occupation:
>>>>>>>> always dreading the knock at the front door.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The looming removal of six Palestinian families from their homes
>> in
>>>>>>>> East Jerusalem set off a round of protests that helped ignite the
>>>>>>>> latest war between Israel and Gaza. But to the roughly three
>> million
>>>>>>>> Palestinians living in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, which
>>>> Israel
>>>>>>>> captured in the 1967 war and has controlled through decades of
>>>> failed
>>>>>>>> peace talks, the story was exceptional only because it attracted
>> an
>>>>>>>> international spotlight.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For the most part, they endure the frights and indignities of the
>>>>>>>> Israeli occupation in obscurity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even in supposedly quiet periods, when the world is not paying
>>>>>>>> attention, Palestinians from all walks of life routinely
>> experience
>>>>>>>> exasperating impossibilities and petty humiliations, bureaucratic
>>>>>>>> controls that force agonizing choices, and the fragility and
>> cruelty
>>>>>>>> of life under military rule, now in its second half-century.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/us/israel-gaza-conflict.html?
>>>> action
>>>>>>>> =click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Israel stole the West Bank.  Its occupation of it is illegal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Israel took the West Bank in a defensive war, and their occupation
>> is
>>>>>>> both legal and moral.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        Israel started the war, it was not "defensive"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Israel Launches Preemptive Strike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On June 5, 1967, Israel was isolated, but its military
>>>>>> commanders had conceived a brilliant war strategy. The
>>>>>> entire Israeli Air Force, with the exception of just 12
>>>>>> fighters assigned to defend Israeli air space, took off
>>>>>> at 7:14 a.m. in Operation Moked (aka Operation Focus)
>>>>>> with the intent of bombing Egyptian airfields while the
>>>>>> Egyptian pilots were eating breakfast.By 11:05 a.m.,
>>>>>> 180 Egyptian fighter planes were destroyed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/background-and-overview-six-day-
>>>> war
>>>>>
>>>>> Read the article again. Israel was surrounded by vastly superior
>> forces
>>>>> who had vowed to exterminate the nation of Israel, and no one was
>>>> coming
>>>>> to their aid. The war was defensive.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       The first military action was Israel
>>>> attacking Egypt, even the Israeli's admit
>>>> they started it.
>>>
>>> Three armies, comprising a force of about double everything Israel
>> could
>>> put in the field, were preparing to invade Israel. What is more, the
>>> majority of Israeli forces were reservists, instead of the regular
>>> fielded by the Arabs. Should Israel have waited, or should they have
>>> done what they did.
>>
>>
>>      Your admission that Israel started the war is noted.
>>
>>
>>
>>> By any rational thought process, the Israelis were
>>> fighting a defensive war.
>>>
>>
>>      Wasn't that Hitler's justification, "Poland
>> is massing troops on our border, we had to act"?
> 
> The Germans manufactured an attack by Poland on a German radio station
> to justify the attack. Besides, we know Poland was not preparing to
> attack.
> 
> Israels enemies were preparing to attack and Israel was justified in
> preempting the attack.

In preempting, the leaders of Israel may well have saved their nation 
from utter destruction.