Re: The Everyday Misery of Life Under Israeli Occupation

On Mon, 24 May 2021 06:53:40 -0500, David Hartung
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 5/23/21 10:36 PM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 May 2021 13:08:46 -0500, Mitchell Holman
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> On 5/23/21 8:56 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>> David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/22/21 8:56 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>> David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/22/21 2:22 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>> An eviction in East Jerusalem lies at the center of a conflict
>>> that
>>>>>>>>> led to war between Israel and Hamas. But for millions of
>>>>>>>>> Palestinians, the routine indignities of occupation are part of
>>>>> daily
>>>>>>>>> life.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By David M. Halbfinger and Adam Rasgon
>>>>>>>>> May 22, 2021
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> JERUSALEM — Muhammad Sandouka built his home in the shadow of
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Temple Mount before his second son, now 15, was born.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They demolished it together, after Israeli authorities decided
>>> that
>>>>>>>>> razing it would improve views of the Old City for tourists.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mr. Sandouka, 42, a countertop installer, had been at work when an
>>>>>>>>> inspector confronted his wife with two options: Tear the house
>>> down,
>>>>>>>>> or the government would not only level it but also bill the
>>>>> Sandoukas
>>>>>>>>> $10,000 for its expenses.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Such is life for Palestinians living under Israel’s occupation:
>>>>>>>>> always dreading the knock at the front door.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The looming removal of six Palestinian families from their homes
>>> in
>>>>>>>>> East Jerusalem set off a round of protests that helped ignite the
>>>>>>>>> latest war between Israel and Gaza. But to the roughly three
>>> million
>>>>>>>>> Palestinians living in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, which
>>>>> Israel
>>>>>>>>> captured in the 1967 war and has controlled through decades of
>>>>> failed
>>>>>>>>> peace talks, the story was exceptional only because it attracted
>>> an
>>>>>>>>> international spotlight.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For the most part, they endure the frights and indignities of the
>>>>>>>>> Israeli occupation in obscurity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even in supposedly quiet periods, when the world is not paying
>>>>>>>>> attention, Palestinians from all walks of life routinely
>>> experience
>>>>>>>>> exasperating impossibilities and petty humiliations, bureaucratic
>>>>>>>>> controls that force agonizing choices, and the fragility and
>>> cruelty
>>>>>>>>> of life under military rule, now in its second half-century.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/us/israel-gaza-conflict.html?
>>>>> action
>>>>>>>>> =click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Israel stole the West Bank.  Its occupation of it is illegal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Israel took the West Bank in a defensive war, and their occupation
>>> is
>>>>>>>> both legal and moral.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        Israel started the war, it was not "defensive"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Israel Launches Preemptive Strike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On June 5, 1967, Israel was isolated, but its military
>>>>>>> commanders had conceived a brilliant war strategy. The
>>>>>>> entire Israeli Air Force, with the exception of just 12
>>>>>>> fighters assigned to defend Israeli air space, took off
>>>>>>> at 7:14 a.m. in Operation Moked (aka Operation Focus)
>>>>>>> with the intent of bombing Egyptian airfields while the
>>>>>>> Egyptian pilots were eating breakfast.By 11:05 a.m.,
>>>>>>> 180 Egyptian fighter planes were destroyed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/background-and-overview-six-day-
>>>>> war
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read the article again. Israel was surrounded by vastly superior
>>> forces
>>>>>> who had vowed to exterminate the nation of Israel, and no one was
>>>>> coming
>>>>>> to their aid. The war was defensive.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       The first military action was Israel
>>>>> attacking Egypt, even the Israeli's admit
>>>>> they started it.
>>>>
>>>> Three armies, comprising a force of about double everything Israel
>>> could
>>>> put in the field, were preparing to invade Israel. What is more, the
>>>> majority of Israeli forces were reservists, instead of the regular
>>>> fielded by the Arabs. Should Israel have waited, or should they have
>>>> done what they did.
>>>
>>>
>>>      Your admission that Israel started the war is noted.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> By any rational thought process, the Israelis were
>>>> fighting a defensive war.
>>>>
>>>
>>>      Wasn't that Hitler's justification, "Poland
>>> is massing troops on our border, we had to act"?
>> 
>> The Germans manufactured an attack by Poland on a German radio station
>> to justify the attack. Besides, we know Poland was not preparing to
>> attack.
>> 
>> Israels enemies were preparing to attack and Israel was justified in
>> preempting the attack.
>
>In preempting, the leaders of Israel may well have saved their nation 
>from utter destruction.

Israel has faced all out attacks in 1956,1967 and 1973 to say nothing
of being attacked shortly after the State of Israel was first created
in 1948.

Even usurper Biden agrees that Israel has a right to self-defense but
people like Mitchell Hollowman prefer the Arabs to do what they want -
which is to drive the Jews into the sea.