Re: The Everyday Misery of Life Under Israeli Occupation

David Hartung <[email protected]> Mon, 24 May 2021 14:28:39 -0500
Newsgroups alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.comedy
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 5/24/21 10:02 AM, Bill Flett wrote:
> On 5/24/2021 7:58 AM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 May 2021 07:29:51 -0700, Bill Flett, the intellectual, 
>> moral and physical superior to Kurtsie Nicklas of Burlington NC, 
>> helpfully wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/24/2021 7:09 AM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 24 May 2021 06:53:05 -0700, Bill The Dwarf Flett 
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/24/2021 5:25 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/23/21 11:05 PM, Bill The Dwarf Flett wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/23/2021 5:49 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/23/21 10:08 AM, Bill The Dwarf Flettwrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 2:16 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/22/21 2:22 PM,Bill The Dwarf Flett wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> An eviction in East Jerusalem lies at the center of a 
>>>>>>>>>>> conflict that led to
>>>>>>>>>>> war between Israel and Hamas. But for millions of 
>>>>>>>>>>> Palestinians, the
>>>>>>>>>>> routine indignities of occupation are part of daily life.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> By David M. Halbfinger and Adam Rasgon
>>>>>>>>>>> May 22, 2021
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> JERUSALEM — Muhammad Sandouka built his home in the shadow of 
>>>>>>>>>>> the Temple
>>>>>>>>>>> Mount before his second son, now 15, was born.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They demolished it together, after Israeli authorities 
>>>>>>>>>>> decided that razing
>>>>>>>>>>> it would improve views of the Old City for tourists.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Sandouka, 42, a countertop installer, had been at work 
>>>>>>>>>>> when an
>>>>>>>>>>> inspector confronted his wife with two options: Tear the 
>>>>>>>>>>> house down, or
>>>>>>>>>>> the government would not only level it but also bill the 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sandoukas $10,000
>>>>>>>>>>> for its expenses.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Such is life for Palestinians living under Israel’s 
>>>>>>>>>>> occupation: always
>>>>>>>>>>> dreading the knock at the front door.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The looming removal of six Palestinian families from their 
>>>>>>>>>>> homes in East
>>>>>>>>>>> Jerusalem set off a round of protests that helped ignite the 
>>>>>>>>>>> latest war
>>>>>>>>>>> between Israel and Gaza. But to the roughly three million 
>>>>>>>>>>> Palestinians
>>>>>>>>>>> living in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, which Israel 
>>>>>>>>>>> captured in the
>>>>>>>>>>> 1967 war and has controlled through decades of failed peace 
>>>>>>>>>>> talks, the
>>>>>>>>>>> story was exceptional only because it attracted an 
>>>>>>>>>>> international spotlight.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> For the most part, they endure the frights and indignities of 
>>>>>>>>>>> the Israeli
>>>>>>>>>>> occupation in obscurity.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Even in supposedly quiet periods, when the world is not 
>>>>>>>>>>> paying attention,
>>>>>>>>>>> Palestinians from all walks of life routinely experience 
>>>>>>>>>>> exasperating
>>>>>>>>>>> impossibilities and petty humiliations, bureaucratic controls 
>>>>>>>>>>> that force
>>>>>>>>>>> agonizing choices, and the fragility and cruelty of life 
>>>>>>>>>>> under military
>>>>>>>>>>> rule, now in its second half-century.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/us/israel-gaza-conflict.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage 
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Israel stole the West Bank.  Its occupation of it is illegal.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Israel took the West Bank in a defensive war
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It doesn't matter what the nature of the war was.  Taking 
>>>>>>>>> territory in war
>>>>>>>>> is illegal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yet it seems you would have no problem with the Palestinians 
>>>>>>>> destroying Israel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Israel never should have come into existence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No valid reason to create a new state based on a toxic combination 
>>>>> of ethnicity
>>>>> and religion.
>>>> Look up the UN resolution that 
>>>
>>> You've never read Resolution 181.  It doesn't address why Jews 
>>> demanded a
>>> nation-state based on their toxic combination of ethnicity and religion.
>>
>> And that's as it should be because
> 
> You didn't say anything to challenge my true statement, "[There is] No 
> valid reason to create a new state based on a toxic combination of 
> ethnicity and religion."

Your statement is nothing but bigoted hate.