Re: The Everyday Misery of Life Under Israeli Occupation

On 5/24/2021 12:28 PM, David Hartung wrote:
> On 5/24/21 10:02 AM, Bill Flett wrote:
>> On 5/24/2021 7:58 AM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>>> On Mon, 24 May 2021 07:29:51 -0700, Bill Flett, the intellectual, moral and 
>>> physical superior to Kurtsie Nicklas of Burlington NC, helpfully wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/24/2021 7:09 AM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 24 May 2021 06:53:05 -0700, Bill The Dwarf Flett <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/24/2021 5:25 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/23/21 11:05 PM, Bill The Dwarf Flett wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/23/2021 5:49 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/23/21 10:08 AM, Bill The Dwarf Flettwrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 2:16 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/22/21 2:22 PM,Bill The Dwarf Flett wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> An eviction in East Jerusalem lies at the center of a conflict that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> led to
>>>>>>>>>>>> war between Israel and Hamas. But for millions of Palestinians, the
>>>>>>>>>>>> routine indignities of occupation are part of daily life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> By David M. Halbfinger and Adam Rasgon
>>>>>>>>>>>> May 22, 2021
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> JERUSALEM — Muhammad Sandouka built his home in the shadow of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Temple
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mount before his second son, now 15, was born.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> They demolished it together, after Israeli authorities decided that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> razing
>>>>>>>>>>>> it would improve views of the Old City for tourists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Sandouka, 42, a countertop installer, had been at work when an
>>>>>>>>>>>> inspector confronted his wife with two options: Tear the house down, or
>>>>>>>>>>>> the government would not only level it but also bill the Sandoukas 
>>>>>>>>>>>> $10,000
>>>>>>>>>>>> for its expenses.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Such is life for Palestinians living under Israel’s occupation: always
>>>>>>>>>>>> dreading the knock at the front door.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The looming removal of six Palestinian families from their homes in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> East
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jerusalem set off a round of protests that helped ignite the latest war
>>>>>>>>>>>> between Israel and Gaza. But to the roughly three million Palestinians
>>>>>>>>>>>> living in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, which Israel captured in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1967 war and has controlled through decades of failed peace talks, the
>>>>>>>>>>>> story was exceptional only because it attracted an international 
>>>>>>>>>>>> spotlight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> For the most part, they endure the frights and indignities of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Israeli
>>>>>>>>>>>> occupation in obscurity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Even in supposedly quiet periods, when the world is not paying 
>>>>>>>>>>>> attention,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Palestinians from all walks of life routinely experience exasperating
>>>>>>>>>>>> impossibilities and petty humiliations, bureaucratic controls that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> force
>>>>>>>>>>>> agonizing choices, and the fragility and cruelty of life under military
>>>>>>>>>>>> rule, now in its second half-century.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/us/israel-gaza-conflict.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage 
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Israel stole the West Bank.  Its occupation of it is illegal.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Israel took the West Bank in a defensive war
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't matter what the nature of the war was.  Taking territory in 
>>>>>>>>>> war
>>>>>>>>>> is illegal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yet it seems you would have no problem with the Palestinians destroying 
>>>>>>>>> Israel.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Israel never should have come into existence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No valid reason to create a new state based on a toxic combination of 
>>>>>> ethnicity
>>>>>> and religion.
>>>>> Look up the UN resolution that 
>>>>
>>>> You've never read Resolution 181.  It doesn't address why Jews demanded a
>>>> nation-state based on their toxic combination of ethnicity and religion.
>>>
>>> And that's as it should be because
>>
>> You didn't say anything to challenge my true statement, "[There is] No valid 
>> reason to create a new state based on a toxic combination of ethnicity and 
>> religion."
> 
> Your statement is nothing but 

fact.

Yes.