Re: The Everyday Misery of Life Under Israeli Occupation

On 5/25/2021 7:09 AM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
> On Mon, 24 May 2021 19:16:58 -0700, Bill Flett <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 5/24/2021 5:51 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>> On 5/24/21 3:41 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>> On 5/24/2021 12:38 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>> On 5/24/21 2:20 PM, Bill Flett wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/24/2021 12:19 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/24/21 9:29 AM, Bill Flett wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2021 7:09 AM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 24 May 2021 06:53:05 -0700, Bill Flett <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2021 5:25 AM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/23/21 11:05 PM, Bill Flett wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/23/2021 5:49 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/23/21 10:08 AM, Bill Flett wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/22/2021 2:16 PM, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/22/21 2:22 PM, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An eviction in East Jerusalem lies at the center of a conflict
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that led to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> war between Israel and Hamas. But for millions of Palestinians, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> routine indignities of occupation are part of daily life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By David M. Halbfinger and Adam Rasgon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May 22, 2021
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JERUSALEM — Muhammad Sandouka built his home in the shadow of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Temple
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mount before his second son, now 15, was born.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They demolished it together, after Israeli authorities decided
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that razing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it would improve views of the Old City for tourists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Sandouka, 42, a countertop installer, had been at work when an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inspector confronted his wife with two options: Tear the house
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the government would not only level it but also bill the Sandoukas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $10,000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for its expenses.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Such is life for Palestinians living under Israel’s occupation:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dreading the knock at the front door.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The looming removal of six Palestinian families from their homes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in East
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jerusalem set off a round of protests that helped ignite the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latest war
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between Israel and Gaza. But to the roughly three million
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Palestinians
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, which Israel captured
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1967 war and has controlled through decades of failed peace talks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> story was exceptional only because it attracted an international
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spotlight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the most part, they endure the frights and indignities of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Israeli
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupation in obscurity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even in supposedly quiet periods, when the world is not paying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attention,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Palestinians from all walks of life routinely experience exasperating
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossibilities and petty humiliations, bureaucratic controls that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> force
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agonizing choices, and the fragility and cruelty of life under
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> military
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rule, now in its second half-century.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/us/israel-gaza-conflict.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Israel stole the West Bank.  Its occupation of it is illegal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Israel took the West Bank in a defensive war
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't matter what the nature of the war was.  Taking territory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in war
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is illegal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet it seems you would have no problem with the Palestinians
>>>>>>>>>>>>> destroying Israel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Israel never should have come into existence.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No valid reason to create a new state based on a toxic combination of
>>>>>>>>>> ethnicity
>>>>>>>>>> and religion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Look up the UN resolution that created the state of Israel and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You've never read Resolution 181.  It doesn't address why Jews demanded a
>>>>>>>> nation-state based on their toxic combination of ethnicity and religion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Question, why is the Jewish "combination of ethnicity and religion" toxic
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Self evident.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see,
>>>>
>>>> You don't.  You never do.
>>>
>>> While you are consistently unable to answer the simplest question.
>>
>> I answer questions that are posed in good faith.  Yours never are.
> 
> More facts from Prof. Canoza.

Yes.