Re: Does Science Make Faith Obsolete?

On 25.05.2021 12:52, Kurt Nicklas wrote:
> On Tue, 25 May 2021 07:49:12 -0500, Mitchell Holman
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> aaa <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> On 2021-05-24 1:52 p.m., Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>> aaa <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2021-05-23 9:35 p.m., Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>> aaa <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2021-05-23 1:46 p.m., Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>> aaa <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2021-05-22 1:59 p.m., Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> aaa <[email protected]> wrote in news:s8b6g8$iji$2@dont-
>> email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-05-21 9:36 p.m., Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> aaa <[email protected]> wrote in news:s88u1e$oge$3@dont-
>>>> email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2021-05-21 1:48 p.m., Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aaa <[email protected]> wrote in news:s88jml$ogo$5@dont-
>>>>>> email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                So why did God kill so many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "sinless" animals in Ye Floode?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God only saved lives from the disaster caused by the
>>>> human
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>              What "human sin"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>              There were no Ten Commandments at the time,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no rules of Leviticus and Deuteronomy. What was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their "sin"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There was sin since Adam and Eve.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            What made Noah's family exempt from that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            What made the animals he spared exempt from
>> that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God's loving kindness and mercy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             Drowning millions of animals and people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who did nothing wrong is "kindness and merch"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That has nothing to do with God. I have explained that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>           God had nothing to do with Ye Floode?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> God had nothing to do with the cause of the flood, absolutely!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>           The cause of the flood was God choosing
>>>>>>>>>> to cause the flood.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No. God controls everything, but not everything is caused by God.
>>>>>> Just
>>>>>>>>> because God has control over the evil thing doesn't mean that God
>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> responsible for the evil thing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Everything that happens in this universe
>>>>>>>> is under God's control."
>>>>>>>> "aaa", Feb 5 2018
>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yauc3fhw
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If Ye Floode happened it was under god's
>>>>>>>> control, as YOU claimed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course. God will always have the absolute control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Then God caused Ye Floode.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        There is a force greater than God that
>>>> caused Ye Floode?
>>>
>>> The cause of the flood is the human sin. Sin is human stupidity. It can
>>> never be compared with God.
>>
>>
>>     God either caused Ye Floode, or
>> permitted it to happen, or was unable
>> to prevent it.
>>
>>     Which is it?
> 
> What you just wrote is a 'False Dilemma Fallacy', Hollowman.
> 
> You haven't an honest bone in your body.
> 
> https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/common-logical-fallacies
> 
Clive Staples Lewis' trilemma isn't much better than his fallacy. 
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lewis_Trilemma

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